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Postby Freakzilla » 16 Jun 2009 08:47

Ampoliros wrote:I want him to SHUT THE FUCK UP about that damned "corrupt empire". Shaddam's empire wasn't any more or less corrupt than any other (including Paul's) at least as the Canon books show us.


Let's see... Shaddam had the Guild, Sisterhood, CHOAM and the Landsraad checking him. Who balanced Paul's power?

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Re: Jessica of Dune page now up on Amazon

Postby SadisticCynic » 16 Jun 2009 10:05

Um.. anyone notice one calls it the sequel to Dune and the other the sequel to Dune Messiah? :doh:

(If I missed this earlier, my apologies).
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Postby Freakzilla » 16 Jun 2009 10:15

SadisticCynic wrote:Um.. anyone notice one calls it the sequel to Dune and the other the sequel to Dune Messiah? :doh:

(If I missed this earlier, my apologies).



:lol: I missed that.
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Sweet Mother! Jessica gots back.

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Postby Freakzilla » 16 Jun 2009 11:15

She's got room to set a drink AND an ashtray on that. :shock:
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Re: Jessica of Dune page now up on Amazon

Postby Freakzilla » 16 Jun 2009 11:17

Why is it people have such a hard time puting hoods on stilsuits?

I guess I should be thankfull she doesn't have a hat on.

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Postby Tleszer » 16 Jun 2009 11:29

I know we've already joked about Jessica's winds, but this cover art actually supports that smelly notion! :lol:
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Postby SandChigger » 16 Jun 2009 11:37

Thar she blows!!! :lol:

B. Conway is evidently feeling petulant:

Unlike you, I won't jump to conclusions, I will seek the facts instead. I know what cover my ARC came with, I know there has been no "official announcement" and I know that the cover has no real bearing on the content of the book.


Me:

Who's jumping to conclusions? We're simply examining the possibilities, looking for an explanation to an unexpected anomaly. (Do you keep your brain turned off all the time now, not just when you're reading KJA?)

Your precious ARC you keep flaunting was sent out over a month ago, no? (Interesting datum, since most ARCs I've seen have had blank covers.) Things can change, no? And there was no advance warning of the title change until its "official announcement", either.

But you're quite right about one thing.

A turd in a pretty wrapper is still crap. :D
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Postby TheDukester » 16 Jun 2009 12:30

SadisticCynic wrote:Um.. anyone notice one calls it the sequel to Dune and the other the sequel to Dune Messiah?

Yikes, I missed that one. I was recently listing all the differences for my good friend Brian Conway, but I just zipped right past that one.
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Postby Omphalos » 16 Jun 2009 12:41

SadisticCynic wrote:Um.. anyone notice one calls it the sequel to Dune and the other the sequel to Dune Messiah? :doh:

(If I missed this earlier, my apologies).


Must have been designed by Unca Mike.

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SadisticCynic wrote:Um.. anyone notice one calls it the sequel to Dune and the other the sequel to Dune Messiah?

Yikes, I missed that one. I was recently listing all the differences for my good friend Brian Conway, but I just zipped right past that one.



hahhaa amazing! they manage to fuck another thing up


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Re: Jessica of Dune page now up on Amazon

Postby Sev » 16 Jun 2009 14:53

And the first review is up at B&N - written, as expected, by an idiot - they enjoyed the flashback scenes. Bloody hell, what Imperial planets will they have various cast members journeying to this time :roll:
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Postby Nekhrun » 16 Jun 2009 15:13

Omphalos wrote:
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Sweet Mother! Jessica gots back.

Now that is a nice fat ass!
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Postby SandChigger » 16 Jun 2009 15:59

B. Conway has showed up in the thread to eat crow:

Looks like the Publisher did decide to make the change. I'm surprised to see them change so close to publication, but apparently there was a lot of positive feedback on the UK cover. I'm sure the book will be well received by MOST people.

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Postby Freakzilla » 16 Jun 2009 16:22

SandChigger wrote:B. Conway has showed up in the thread to eat crow:

Looks like the Publisher did decide to make the change. I'm surprised to see them change so close to publication, but apparently there was a lot of positive feedback on the UK cover. I'm sure the book will be well received by MOST people.

God I love to be right when he's wrong.

Right now, it's good to be me. :banana-dance:


Well, MOST people that read it will be to dumb to know the difference, others are just maniacal in their hatred. :wink:
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Postby SandChigger » 16 Jun 2009 18:32

Here's the B&N review Sev mentioned:

A New Dune Book
by Gnomicron [=KJASF Spayshul Pooter Robert Junker on Amazon]

Reader Rating: (4 stars)

June 13, 2009: The Winds of Dune was great book that adds to the tapestry of the Dune Universe.
When Frank Herbert wrote the original (and still classic) series, he left a good many years uncharted during the course of the series. This new set of books (starting with Paul of Dune) does a good job of filling in some unanswered questions. I enjoyed the flashback scenes in this book quite a bit.

Frank Herbert, undeniably a master storyteller, could sometimes be a little dry in his writing. Herbert and Anderson do a good job at making the narrative a little more approachable. The writing was crisp and it flowed well.

Starting from Jessica learning of her son's death and dealing with Alia's learning how to run an Empire, this book moves swiftly from start to finish. There were quite a few parts where I couldn't put this book down.

The least interesting character in this book was Irulan. But then, she never was one of my favorite characters. She's never really felt well-rounded to me. She still doesn't in this book.

All in all, I enjoyed this book (and the previous book in the trilogy) and would highly recommend it to other sci-fi fans.

OK, this moron obviously can't read. Or write all that well, either.

On the drive down to the office this morning I was trying to imagine what flashbacks this thing could possibly contain.

- There's still most of the Fremen Jihad period between PoD and Messiah that was never touched.
- Paul's boyhood when Jessica was teaching him all her wierding ways. I'd put money on there being some of that in there, since they left it out of PoD.
- New incidents during the space of Messiah that FH neglected to tell us about.

Can anyone think of anything else?

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Postby SandChigger » 16 Jun 2009 18:45

I think I might be developing an allergic reaction to Kevin's writing.

I've had that Terror Incognizant book for well over a week now, I think, and I just can't make myself actually start reading it. So I've been fartsing around calculating stats on it and making a purdy synopsis page for the website....

It's just the same ole KJA drone drone drone tell tell tell. There's one scene in the first chapter where he actually puts the droning blah blah blah into the mouth of one of the characters. THAT actually made me think there might be hope, that he might at last have learned something about writing.

But no, it's back to the drone drone drone again soon enough..... :roll:
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Postby SandRider » 16 Jun 2009 20:26

So This Asshole wrote:Frank Herbert, undeniably a master storyteller, could sometimes be a little dry in his writing. Herbert and Anderson do a good job at making the narrative a little more approachable. The writing was crisp and it flowed well.



What the fuck ? This is just too stupid to even get mad over.

Robert Junker, huh ? Just another asshole to hate ....
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Postby Nekhrun » 16 Jun 2009 23:48

SandChigger wrote:B. Conway has showed up in the thread to eat crow:

Looks like the Publisher did decide to make the change. I'm surprised to see them change so close to publication, but apparently there was a lot of positive feedback on the UK cover. I'm sure the book will be well received by MOST people.

God I love to be right when he's wrong.

Right now, it's good to be me. :banana-dance:

Also it looks like he's judging this book by its cover now which he just told everyone not to do.
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Postby SandChigger » 17 Jun 2009 00:10

:lol:

You gotta luv 'im, he's such a joy-bringer! :D

Oh yeah: KJA Jr. deleted his comment from my PoD review. I'm glad I copied it into my own reply for safeguarding. :laughing:

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Postby SadisticCynic » 17 Jun 2009 10:04

Always one step ahead eh? :lol:
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Postby Hunchback Jack » 17 Jun 2009 17:06

I have to quote an excerpt from one of Lundse's replies to the "Irulan Imprisoned?" Amazon discussion:

[I] believe that if you chose to write in another persons universe, you owe that person, that universe and its fans some respect (no, not legally, morally). Rewriting the Butlerian Jihad as a Skynet scenario is disrespectful (or they do not understand the originals). Inventing a(nother?!?!?) first time off-planet for Paul only so they can put some action into the books is disrespectful. Claiming Leto II and everything he dod and stood for was 100% wrong is disrespectful. Inventing a super-ultra-cool new godess-like character who fixes everything in the end, keeping in mind the original novel was, in Frank's words, a warning about the lure of the hero-myth is... bloody hilarious if it were a joke.
Now it is just sad...

If you like the action-romp and the universe, fine. We dislike the disrespect, inattention to detail and general ignoring (or ignorance about?) the originals.
Are the books good action-sci/fi books for teens. Maybe. I could not care less.
Are they good Dune books. No. They are horrible misunderstandings with zero regard for the original characters, themes and even basic plot points.

By writing Dune on the front cover, they are inviting people to judge them on the later merits.


I want to cut and paste that reply to every Amazon discussion, every board, every review in which NoDune fanboys cry plaintively "if you don't like the books, don't read them". It summarizes my feelings about the situation perfectly.

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Re: Jessica of Dune page now up on Amazon

Postby SadisticCynic » 17 Jun 2009 17:10

Print many copies of it, then insert them into any nuDune you find. :twisted:
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