SandChigger wrote:A few facts about the Herbert Properties LLC (formerly Herbert Limited Partnership, thus HLP) that might help...
1. There are 11 members. Brian Herbert is the managing general partner. (I believe he and his half-sister Penny Merritt [FH's daughter by his first wife] were the executive partners under the limited partnership, with everyone else being associate or junior partners.) So HE is the one with the authority, on paper at least, to call the shots.
2. The other members are Brian and Penny's spouses and children and Frank Herbert's third wife: Jan, Julie, Margaux & Kim Herbert, and Ron, David, Byron and Robert Merritt, and Theresa Shackelford.
Brian Herbert was evidently the main heir, and possibly the executor of his father's estate. (I believe I've read somewhere that the HLP was set up before FH's death, but I have no idea at the moment where I saw it.) At any rate, he seems to be the one the lawyers contacted when the S&L turned up the safety deposit boxes. (Assuming that bit of the hagiography is true.)
Thanks for filling me in on this. I did not know these details and, perhaps, my previous conclusions were based on insufficient data.
SandChigger wrote:It's my suspicion that Brian Herbert wants to look like a bumbling fool, leaving KJA to take most of the blame for accomplishing Brian's real goal of destroying the hated rival of his oh so unhappy childhood: his father's work.
That's one lovable little theory But do you think you'll be able to find any proof?
TheDukester wrote:The recent Children of Dune upside-down-art debacle is living evidence of that (seriously, did one person at HLP even bother to look at a proof? At this point, do the publishers even bother to contct the HLP any more?)
What about Children of Dune? I think I missed that...
TheDukester wrote:HLP = Brian Herbert, for all intents and purposes.
Could it be that, by placing all the responsibility on BH, you give yourself a justification for negative attitude towards him? (No offense, just a side note)
TheDukester wrote:Besides, Kevin's books sell.
Bullshit. Kevin's books "sell" based exclusively on the licensed property that is on the front cover. Very, very few people bother to buy Kevin J. Anderson originals — the dismal sales of his Terrible Incoherent series are proof enough of that.
Oh, I meant exactly that (but probably put it the wrong way): KJA elaborated his own scheme of writing "books that sell" with minimum effort, by being a "co-author" of someone famous - preferably, if this someone is no longer capable of participating in the writing process. By no means did I imply that KJA's books sell on their own merit.
TheDukester wrote:The only name on those Dune covers that matters is "Herbert." The other author could be practically anyone and sales would almost assuredly still have fallen within a few thousand of where they already have.
Yet they chose KJA - and who knows why? Is there any evidence that BH personally singled KJA out of several candidates? The official story goes, IIRC, that KJA first contacted BH (through a mutual friend), offered cooperation, and BH promptly agreed, even though before that he was reluctant to touch Dune and try writing on his own in that field.
TheDukester wrote:Once again, if he was able to do so.
Once again, do your research. There's years of pretty damning evidence out there.
Would be nice if you provided me with some links.
TheDukester wrote:Brian Herbert, a grown adult, could have said "no." It's just one word.
Suppose he did so, and then allowed himself to be persuaded to change his mind?
TheDukester wrote:I guess I do agree with you about the money part. I just don't see any reason other than greed** to suddenly turn a valuable, much-loved franchise over to a notorious hack. Maybe Brian needed money for something; maybe the HLP, in general, wanted to cash a few checks; maybe they saw Kevin as nothing more than a tool (*snort*) that could turn out McDune crap on an annual basis; maybe they are using him, and we're not giving them enough credit for their evil genius.
Actually, I have this very impression that KJA was hired to do specifically the job he's currently doing: churning out lots of books that are aggressively promoted to a large audience.
There's one more thing to it. You mentioned that BH could have taken a scholarly approach to Frank's legacy. He had an opportunity to do so for a long time before KJA ever showed up on the scene, and none of the excuses for not touching Dune like the ones applicable to actually writing a sequel on his own would work in this case. This fact alone (that he didn't do anything in that direction, although such course of action is pretty obvious) tells a lot about BH's/HLP's general attitude, doesn't it?
TheDukester wrote:It's certainly not an effort to love or honor Frank
Where did I say it was?