C. Carter Holland wrote:I mean he (KJA) fell for the Earl Gurney trick: Complaints were made that Gurney's Earldom was never mentioned in NuDune, then suddenly "Earl Gurney" is all over Winds of Dune. Guess what Kev, Frank Himself only mentioned it once, in DUNE and only as a concession of victory; It is quite possible that Gurney turned down the promotion to remain in Jessica's court, or simply that Frank completely forgot about it OR CONSIDERED IT A STORY NOT WORTH TELLING.
I know its supposed to be a compliment to see one's own work in print, but in this case I think it rather proves the point of how much KJA extracts from the OH situation in his writing.
I give credit to the OH for this revelation because while it is quite possible that KJA did get it from the end of Dune, I think its much more likely that he's never read the original, and paraphrasing an often quoted point made by our esteemed organization "I simply don't think he's that smart."
Simply put, a hook was cast into the water, and a balding flounder bit right in.
EDIT: I moved this here to the beginning to show that parts of the arguement I made are wrong however the truth at the heart of it remains pretty much intact:
Ampoliros wrote:Going Back, here are some some quotes (provided by an anonymous tipster ) from PoD that DO mention the earldom.
Paul of Dune wrote:
Officially, Gurney had been granted an earldom on Caladan as part of Shaddam's surrender terms, but Paul had given Gurney no chance to settle here.
Affable Gurney, the troubadour warrior whose talent with a baliset was as well known as his skill with a sword. He had made the man an earl of Caladan, then denied him any time to settle there and make a real life. Gurney, I am sorry. And you did not complain for a moment.
He already had an earldom on Caladan, but Jessica had taken the title of Duchess, and the people there loved her. He didn't want to take anything away from her. But... Giedi Prime? Paul was doing him no favors.
So I was wrong, for some part.
However, being wrong on one point ("Earl" Gurney) doesn't dismiss the fact that KJA is able to mention obscure facts from the book, and yet patently ignore blatant facts (Birthplace, Trips off world, Mentat training, the role of a secure home in Hero mythology...)