What kja thinks of the ghost of FH.

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What kja thinks of the ghost of FH.

Postby Nekhrun » 25 Nov 2009 13:00

Another winning interview by the hack: http://www.actusf.com/spip/article-8561.html
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Re: What kja thinks of the ghost of FH.

Postby lotek » 25 Nov 2009 13:05

1st quote
I started making up stories of my own,


like the story of a dune 7 outline?

Quote 2
It’s too much work to write in a universe you don’t enjoy


how about in one you don't understand?

jHACKass!!

nb: don't mention the cliffhanger...

quote 3
Frank Herbert changed the entire genre with the publication of Dune because he wrote a story that had such a scope and depth to demonstrate the true possibilities of science fiction. No one else has ever been able to match it.


well acceptance is the first step so they say :)


And the usual bull follows...
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Re: What kja thinks of the ghost of FH.

Postby TheDukester » 25 Nov 2009 13:08

Christsakes, it's like he's got a checklist he goes down. Every interview is the same, with only some minor variations. And every interviewer is a spineless coward who lobs the same softball questions.

I did like that he kept hammering on the "cliffhanger" angle for CH. Methinks he's a bit sensitive about the subject, since he always uses it as a direct bridge between Frank and himself.
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Re: What kja thinks of the ghost of FH.

Postby Freakzilla » 25 Nov 2009 13:08

Nekhrun wrote:Another winning interview by the hack: http://www.actusf.com/spip/article-8561.html


ActuSF : Do you ever feel hindered by the fear of committing sacrilege ? Do you feel entirely free to develop your stories ? Isn’t Frank Herbert’s ghost always watching behind your back ?
Kevin J.Anderson : Frank Herbert’s ghost is always watching behind our backs, but that is a good thing. He left an incredible legacy for us, and Brian and I have to be sure we maintain the quality and complexity. Thankfully, now that we’ve just published our 11th book in the series, the fans continue to follow us and express their enthusiasm for new volumes. When we create our stories, we have to stay within the boundaries of the Dune novels Frank Herbert wrote, but it’s a big universe and there is plenty of room for us to express our creativity.


For me this is proof there is no god, for surely KJA would have been hit with a lightning bolt durring that response.

ActuSF : What kind of relation do you have with Dune’s followers ? How did they react when they learnt that the master’s work would be continued ?
Kevin J.Anderson : Anyone who has read CHAPTERHOUSE DUNE knows that Frank Herbert meant to continue the story, so we’re not making up novels that don’t need to be told. Because Frank Herbert’s very last published novel (MAN OF TWO WORLDS) was a collaboration with his son Brian, and he had asked Brian to write further Dune books with him, it’s certainly a legitimate effort. Some of the fans were skeptical when they first heard of the project, and some even posted very negative comments before they read the first novel, HOUSE ATREIDES. After the book came out, though, we received numerous apology letters from the complainers.


Funny how he doesn't mention the negative comments SINCE then.

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Re: What kja thinks of the ghost of FH.

Postby TheDukester » 25 Nov 2009 13:11

I've always smirked at that "numerous apologies" line. It has the look of a tale that's really grown with each telling.

My honest guess: no more than three actual letters of "apology." And I'd guess that those also included some criticisms.

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Re: What kja thinks of the ghost of FH.

Postby lotek » 25 Nov 2009 13:13

this is a french website, i left a little note saying that he DID committ sacrilege and that we at jacurutu are ready to explain why to anyone who speaks english ;)

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Re: What kja thinks of the ghost of FH.

Postby lotek » 25 Nov 2009 13:17

been reading a post on the hack's new "story" and the comments on the preequels tend to make me feel we have some fellow cast out that over there :)
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Re: What kja thinks of the ghost of FH.

Postby TheDukester » 25 Nov 2009 13:17

A funnier question is what the ghost of FH thinks of Kevin.

I'm pretty sure that Frank is not very pleased. Not very pleased at all. It's a safe bet that there is a big series of ass-kickings coming in whatever afterlife you believe in. Frank is going to make TheKJA cry.
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Re: What kja thinks of the ghost of FH.

Postby Freakzilla » 25 Nov 2009 13:21

lotek wrote:jHACKass!!


I like it!

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Re: What kja thinks of the ghost of FH.

Postby lotek » 25 Nov 2009 13:23

Freakzilla wrote:
lotek wrote:jHACKass!!


I like it!


yup after all those low level puns I came up with I am quite proud of this one :lol:
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Re: What kja thinks of the ghost of FH.

Postby Slugger » 25 Nov 2009 14:30

He doesn't actually say anything when providing responses.

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Re: What kja thinks of the ghost of FH.

Postby The_Preacher » 25 Nov 2009 14:36

Freakzilla wrote:For me this is proof there is no god, for surely KJA would have been hit with a lightning bolt durring that response.
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Don't forget, folks... Karma is a bizzle. Those two will get theirs. Some day the travesty they've made will come back to haunt them. Especially when they realize that their life's work is based on blatant exploitation and they haven't contributed one single bit of creativity to the species.
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Re: What kja thinks of the ghost of FH.

Postby Omphalos » 25 Nov 2009 15:03

You think that someday they will realize that? They're going to go to their graves oblivious.

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Re: What kja thinks of the ghost of FH.

Postby Freakzilla » 25 Nov 2009 15:07

Omphalos wrote:You think that someday they will realize that? They're going to go to their graves oblivious.


It won't be for a lack of us telling them for at least a decade .
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Re: What kja thinks of the ghost of FH.

Postby TheDukester » 25 Nov 2009 17:57

Omphalos wrote:You think that someday they will realize that? They're going to go to their graves oblivious.

Possibly not, but that's not the only way karma can work. She can be a mysterious bitch, but I have no doubt she's coming for Hacky and The Other Guy.

I'll add that I think this sort of thing hits Kevin harder than he will ever admit. You can see it sometimes in his defensiveness, sensitivity, desperate need for validation and approval, and on and on. I think there's times when he looks in the mirror and knows that a two-bit, rent-a-hack is staring back at him. Worse yet, he knows he will leave no legacy in the SF/F field. I think there's times that that must really get to him; again, though, he would never admit it.

As to what Brian thinks ... who knows? And, honestly, who cares? With each passing day, I'm more and more convinced that he simply doesn't matter. He's like the embarrassing relative that is physically there, but that most of the family has learned how to avoid.
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Re: What kja thinks of the ghost of FH.

Postby chanilover » 25 Nov 2009 18:09

Some of the fans were skeptical when they first heard of the project, and some even posted very negative comments before they read the first novel, HOUSE ATREIDES. After the book came out, though, we received numerous apology letters from the complainers.


What a colossal twat. Just because someone writes you a letter saying "sorry, but that was the biggest pile of shit I've read in a long time", that doesn't make it a letter of apology.
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Re: What kja thinks of the ghost of FH.

Postby trang » 25 Nov 2009 20:45

was watching Rocky III while reading this thread and made think of a good like from the film that can be modified for this situation.

Media person to Clubber Lang " whats your prediction for BH and the Jacket in the after life"
Clubber Lang "prediction?...(dramatic pause)....PAIN!!!"
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Re: What kja thinks of the ghost of FH.

Postby Hunchback Jack » 25 Nov 2009 22:21

TheDukester wrote:I'll add that I think this sort of thing hits Kevin harder than he will ever admit. You can see it sometimes in his defensiveness, sensitivity, desperate need for validation and approval, and on and on.


Oh, absolutely. You just have to look at the responses that Freak quoted to see that. First response: "Quality? You bet. The sales figures prove it. Right? RIGHT???" Second response: "It's not like we're doing anything wrong. We're just doing what Frank wanted. And Brian's involved, and he was gonna write more Dune books with Frank. It's all completely legit. Trust me."

I think there's times when he looks in the mirror and knows that a two-bit, rent-a-hack is staring back at him. Worse yet, he knows he will leave no legacy in the SF/F field. I think there's times that that must really get to him; again, though, he would never admit it.


Well, I think he *fears* that he's just a hack, and *hopes* he will have a legacy. I think he tells himself that he's a skilled and successful writer every single day - and tells other people every chance he gets - and that's his equivalent of whistling past the graveyard.

I think he really dreads the possibility that some writer he really looks up to, or some intervewer giving him enormous coverage, will point an accusing finger in his face and yell "you're NOTHING but a parasitic HACK, growing FAT off other people's work while PISSING all over it!".

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Re: What kja thinks of the ghost of FH.

Postby SandChigger » 25 Nov 2009 22:54

None of the interviewers out there ... or even the other writers ... seem to have the balls for it.

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Re: What kja thinks of the ghost of FH.

Postby lotek » 26 Nov 2009 07:18

yup I think that whatever art you're in, having the sales number is always good but even the best selling people will be looking for recognition from the hard to please crowd and/or their peers.

For example I make music and although I enjoy a positive response of the audience, I feel much more proud of my work when praise comes from people I respect in that field and who know how hard it is to create "stuff" :)

The ob/com (a little reference here for who gets it ;) )attitude of the jHACKass (feel free to use that all over the interwebz!!) shows exactly the same pattern, his bragging about his sales and numbers is just the give away that shows what he's really after, that is the approval of the true fans, not those dimwits that think his stacks of pages are real books.

He probably doesn't think much of his fans(or else he'd not feed 'em that crap would he?)
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Re: What kja thinks of the ghost of FH.

Postby Ampoliros » 26 Nov 2009 20:32

Karma doesn't have to strike, KJA has already ensured that his legacy will be a footnote and a joke.
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Re: What kja thinks of the ghost of FH.

Postby Dunenewt » 27 Nov 2009 11:15

lotek wrote:yup I think that whatever art you're in, having the sales number is always good but even the best selling people will be looking for recognition from the hard to please crowd and/or their peers.

For example I make music and although I enjoy a positive response of the audience, I feel much more proud of my work when praise comes from people I respect in that field and who know how hard it is to create "stuff" :)

The ob/com (a little reference here for who gets it ;) )attitude of the jHACKass (feel free to use that all over the interwebz!!) shows exactly the same pattern, his bragging about his sales and numbers is just the give away that shows what he's really after, that is the approval of the true fans, not those dimwits that think his stacks of pages are real books.

He probably doesn't think much of his fans(or else he'd not feed 'em that crap would he?)


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To wit: barely post-pubescent geeky teenage boys. :P


(Which description fits Dunenewt over on FED2K, it seems, even though he's 20 or something.)

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Re: What kja thinks of the ghost of FH.

Postby SandChigger » 27 Nov 2009 12:03

'Newt! :D

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Re: What kja thinks of the ghost of FH.

Postby lotek » 27 Nov 2009 13:36

Dunenewt wrote:
lotek wrote:yup I think that whatever art you're in, having the sales number is always good but even the best selling people will be looking for recognition from the hard to please crowd and/or their peers.

For example I make music and although I enjoy a positive response of the audience, I feel much more proud of my work when praise comes from people I respect in that field and who know how hard it is to create "stuff" :)

The ob/com (a little reference here for who gets it ;) )attitude of the jHACKass (feel free to use that all over the interwebz!!) shows exactly the same pattern, his bragging about his sales and numbers is just the give away that shows what he's really after, that is the approval of the true fans, not those dimwits that think his stacks of pages are real books.

He probably doesn't think much of his fans(or else he'd not feed 'em that crap would he?)


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Postby Mr. Teg » 28 Nov 2009 07:42

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