Nah, it just doesn't have that necessary conspiracy theory umph!

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Hunchback Jack wrote:Are there some father/son issues there? No doubt. Does he wish that he could get out from his father's shadow and stand on his own as a writer? No doubt. But I don't think those things equate with a desire to sabotage his father's work.
TheDukester wrote:Yikes.
Little aggressive there on the swearing.
Thodol wrote:I do not want to visit the intentions of a man I do not know. But he obviously does not give a flaming fuck about his fathers art. He could have sold out in any number of ways that did not involve straight up taking a shit on the original books.
So there is definitely something going on. I am not hip on who actually owns the material. Is it all Brian? Maybe he made a deal? Maybe he is a pussy fucker and cant stand up to jedi fuckhead. Jedi hack has an aura of used cars salesman. Brian does not appear to be an assertive fellow, nor fundamentally retarded. He seems to show uneasiness when he is put in a position of straight out lying. And Darth Hack has no qualms or shame in his game.
What disturbs me more is that cyber ghost of chickens pasts future is actually allowed to be a pretentious twat? Subjective opinion aside, he is a fucking horrible writer. And beyond even that seems very limited in the imagination department. Technically and artistically he is complete trash. Its so bad that its not even really the realm of opinion...its a FACT. Either you are retarded -pathologically stunted- or are lying if you disagree.
Do other authors call him on his shit? Stephen King is Shakespeare comparatively, and is a far nicer person. Yet everyone and their mother talks shit about him...
But the jackass whose claim to fame is fan fiction for established franchises gets a pass?
TheDukester wrote:They've blocked any and all attempts to make any sort of game out of the Dune IP. Boardgame, collectible (or even non-collectible) card game, role-playing game, party game, PC game, console game ... whatever. They unilaterally refuse to hear any proposals.
It's so bad that Fantasy Flight Games, the largest publisher of strategy games in the U.S., simply gave up on trying to re-make the classic Avalon Hill Dune game. Instead, they are going to use the game's mechanics — which can't be copyrighted — to shift the setting of the game to their own Twilight Imperium universe. So, FFG gets a good, solid game (but it won't sell as well as it could have) and the HLP gets nothing. Not a cent. Brilliant, aren't they?
I wouldn't be at all surprised if the concept of "games" goes against either Spanky McDune's quasi-CoS beliefs or Bobo's ... whatever the hell it is that Bobo believes in. I suspect Anderhack, though. There were lots of Dune-flavored games until the late '90s. And what happened in the late '90s? Keith did his mind-control thing on Bobo, that's what.
Assholes. The lot of them.
TheDukester wrote:They've blocked any and all attempts to make any sort of game out of the Dune IP. Boardgame, collectible (or even non-collectible) card game, role-playing game, party game, PC game, console game ..
TheDukester wrote:Yikes.
Little aggressive there on the swearing.
TheDukester wrote:"You're a literary legend, Brian."
TheDukester wrote:They've blocked any and all attempts to make any sort of game out of the Dune IP. Boardgame, collectible (or even non-collectible) card game, role-playing game, party game, PC game, console game ... whatever. They unilaterally refuse to hear any proposals.
It's so bad that Fantasy Flight Games, the largest publisher of strategy games in the U.S., simply gave up on trying to re-make the classic Avalon Hill Dune game. Instead, they are going to use the game's mechanics — which can't be copyrighted — to shift the setting of the game to their own Twilight Imperium universe. So, FFG gets a good, solid game (but it won't sell as well as it could have) and the HLP gets nothing. Not a cent. Brilliant, aren't they?
I wouldn't be at all surprised if the concept of "games" goes against either Spanky McDune's quasi-CoS beliefs or Bobo's ... whatever the hell it is that Bobo believes in. I suspect Anderhack, though. There were lots of Dune-flavored games until the late '90s. And what happened in the late '90s? Keith did his mind-control thing on Bobo, that's what.
Assholes. The lot of them.
DuneFishUK wrote:Was it as simple as "go away" or were the HLP being unreasonable again - requiring that Spongebobo and Spanky get editor/producer credits or something?
TheDukester wrote:(decent-sized checks for everyone)
The Man from Mongoose Publishing wrote:Someone else wrote:This is why you should look into Dune as a 6mm game. Lots of different sides and variation.
And Ornithopters!
We have looked into this several times, and yes, the Herbert Estate is the issue...
Even tried an 'end-around' by going via the Sci-Fi Channel, but no joy.
TheDukester wrote:...tactical miniatures...
http://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/11/11518.phtml wrote:On the credits page we see proper billing given to the designers, the developers of the ICON system, and of course the editors- Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson. When I first noticed this, I said to myself, "well, that explains it," but of course it does no such thing. If you're not familiar with licensed RPGs, just bear in mind that the creators of the property in question generally do not edit the games based on them. George Lucas does not claim developing credit on any incarnation of the STAR WARS RPG, nor is Joss Whedon listed as the editor for the BUFFY game. There are two major reasons for this. The first is that people like this are very busy; the second is that they are not game designers, and most likely have no clue how to put an RPG book together. They know nothing of balanced mechanics and rules terminology. So for Herbert and Anderson to take this credit (in addition to a credit as Creative Consultants) raises questions. Is it mere title-hogging, or a misunderstanding of how game books are put together, or does it suggest they were looking over the designers' shoulders even more intrusively than the average licensor, perhaps then explaining why WotC declined to renew the agreement? Did they, out of all the license holders in all the world, actually know how to edit a rulebook? Or was it just a typo? We may never know.