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Re: Great Stools of Dune predictions: here we go again!

Postby Unfront » 31 Jan 2011 15:56

Aahhhh, I forgot about that little blip in Paul of Dunce. Ever since I read that brain drainer, I've been trying to scrub it from my memory banks. Didn’t they change their name or something so that they could retain their status or something equally as stupid and implausible?

Okay, of course we will hear about the nuking of S.S.

On a side note, I'm reading Dune again and came across a passage where Leto is explaining to Paul (since this “will be [his] first time off planet”) the in and outs of space travel and that Paul should not do anything to jeopardize House Atreides' transport privileges by trying to sneak a peak at a navigator... Leto further explains that no one is allowed off of their own vessel during transport. If this is the case, then why in the prequels and inbetwinkles do the Wayku act like flight attendants in common areas of guild ships....why are there common areas and how do these WayKewl spread the Bronso Manifesto if no one is allowed off of their own ship?
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Postby Freakzilla » 31 Jan 2011 15:59

Unfront wrote:Aahhhh, I forgot about that little blip in Paul of Dunce. Ever since I read that brain drainer, I've been trying to scrub it from my memory banks. Didn’t they change their name or something so that they could retain their status or something equally as stupid and implausible?

Okay, of course we will hear about the nuking of S.S.

On a side note, I'm reading Dune again and came across a passage where Leto is explaining to Paul (since this “will be [his] first time off planet”) the in and outs of space travel and that Paul should not do anything to jeopardize House Atreides' transport privileges by trying to sneak a peak at a navigator... Leto further explains that no one is allowed off of their own vessel during transport. If this is the case, then why in the prequels and inbetwinkles do the Wayku act like flight attendants in common areas of guild ships....why are there common areas and how do these WayKewl spread the Bronso Manifesto if no one is allowed off of their own ship?


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Postby TheDukester » 31 Jan 2011 17:33

Unfront wrote:... then why in the prequels and inbetwinkles do the Wayku act like flight attendants in common areas of guild ships ...

Because Kevin J. Anderprick has no imagination.

All he can do is take the contemporary things he sees around him and add a few SF-sounding words around them. Thus, shopping malls in space ... circuses and entertainment that are exactly like their modern versions ... and your example: Guild ships that are pretty much just the Pacific Princess.

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Postby Lundse » 31 Jan 2011 17:53

TheDukester wrote:Because Kevin J. Anderprick has no imagination.

All he can do is take the contemporary things he sees around him and add a few SF-sounding words around them. Thus, shopping malls in space ... circuses and entertainment that are exactly like their modern versions ... and your example: Guild ships that are pretty much just the Pacific Princess.


I am reminded of all the discussions about civility and namecalling, and sometimes there does seem to be an informal hatefest-competition going on. You may remember where I stand on all this...

But the weird thing is, that this quote may actually be just about the single worst piece of criticism I have seen of KJA.

The funny thing is that it is 100% true. Provable, too.

As another funny bonus, he probably would not get why either is the case... :-)

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Postby SandChigger » 31 Jan 2011 21:24

Hey! :hand:

He's a BIG NAME in science fiction! :snooty:



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Postby Ampoliros » 31 Jan 2011 21:26

I'm not so much worried about hearing about the nuking of SS as I am the reason KJA comes up with for the nuking.
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Postby Omphalos » 31 Jan 2011 21:36

SandChigger wrote:Hey! :hand:

He's a BIG NAME in science fiction! :snooty:



:lol:


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Postby SandChigger » 31 Jan 2011 21:46

:lol: No, hadn't seen that one yet!

Ampoliros wrote:I'm not so much worried about hearing about the nuking of SS as I am the reason KJA comes up with for the nuking.

I think that's pretty much been taken care of, too:

Moritani's eyes flashed. "A Tantor would dare. The Tantors did dare, many centuries ago. When my ancestors were betrayed by Corrinos, backed into a corner and given no choice or chance for survival, they deployed all the atomics of their House and destroyed nearly all life on Salusa Secundus."

After that, it would be extremely tedious for him to tell the story in detail, no? Not that he probably won't eventually try. :doh:

Either way, this is probably much later than the period to be smeared with the steaming bloody piles of the Great Stools. ;)
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Postby merkin muffley » 31 Jan 2011 23:14

Lundse wrote:The funny thing is that it is 100% true. Provable, too.

As another funny bonus, he probably would not get why either is the case... :-)



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Postby TheDukester » 31 Jan 2011 23:45

Oh, God, the luggage stickers ... how could I forget about that one? :doh:

(Blocked it out, maybe?)
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Postby Kojiro » 01 Feb 2011 02:50

Luggage stickers?
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Postby SandChigger » 01 Feb 2011 02:54

Oh Holy Maker, you're right. Jessica's traveling trunk... :shock:

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Kojiro wrote:Luggage stickers?

One day you'll learn not to post those out loud. ;)

Some BIG NAME in scifi in Winds of Dune wrote: Lady Jessica stood in her chamber with the familiar packing wardrobe open before her. Its sides bore the stickers and date stamps of transport authorities, showing the many planets and star systems she had visited since the time she first left Wallach IX as a young woman to become the concubine of Duke Leto Atreides. Jessica had seen a great deal since then, had experienced supreme joy and profound tragedy.
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Postby Kojiro » 01 Feb 2011 03:40

:angry-banghead: :tissue2:
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Postby Serkanner » 01 Feb 2011 05:54

Kojiro wrote::angry-banghead: :tissue2:


Let that be a lesson to you... :lol:
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Postby Nekhrun » 01 Feb 2011 08:27

Some BIG NAME in scifi in Winds of Dune wrote:Jessica had seen a great deal since then, had experienced supreme joy and profound tragedy.

Whoa. Deep.
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Postby SandChigger » 01 Feb 2011 09:13

Nekhrun wrote:
Some BIG NAME in scifi in Winds of Dune wrote:Jessica had seen a great deal since then, had experienced supreme joy and profound tragedy.

Whoa. Deep.

Just who the hell did he think he was telling that to? :roll:
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Postby Freakzilla » 01 Feb 2011 09:31

SandChigger wrote:
Nekhrun wrote:
Some BIG NAME in scifi in Winds of Dune wrote:Jessica had seen a great deal since then, had experienced supreme joy and profound tragedy.

Whoa. Deep.

Just who the hell did he think he was telling that to? :roll:


Me, I'd forgotten all about Jessica. :?
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Postby SandChigger » 01 Feb 2011 09:55

:lol: Yeah, I buy that like Paul in the circus. :roll:
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Postby Ash » 01 Feb 2011 10:18

Okay let me get this straight. This Jessica character was working for internal affairs and she had to travel all over the universe to stop the bad guys. Do I have that right?
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Postby Freakzilla » 01 Feb 2011 10:20

Ash wrote:Okay let me get this straight. This Jessica character was working for internal affairs and she had to travel all over the universe to stop the bad guys. Do I have that right?



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Postby Ash » 01 Feb 2011 10:26

Sorry, I feel like such an idiot. I can’t keep up with KJA. If they would just throw in a couple of recap pages. You know a little something to help keep the story and characters fresh in the mind.
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Postby Tleszer » 01 Feb 2011 10:35

:lol:
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Postby Freakzilla » 01 Feb 2011 10:39

More lasers and explosions would be cool, too.
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Postby merkin muffley » 01 Feb 2011 11:06

Freakzilla wrote:
Ash wrote:Okay let me get this straight. This Jessica character was working for internal affairs and she had to travel all over the universe to stop the bad guys. Do I have that right?



...with her faithfull sidekick, Gurneyman, by her side.



She was known in Bene Gesserit circles as the Atreides Carmen Sandiego.
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Postby Ash » 01 Feb 2011 16:00

Freakzilla wrote:
Ash wrote:Okay let me get this straight. This Jessica character was working for internal affairs and she had to travel all over the universe to stop the bad guys. Do I have that right?



...with her faithfull sidekick, Gurneyman, by her side.


okay I added Gurney.

Gurney stood in his room with the familiar atreides duffle bag open before him. Its canvas sides showing the ware from the many planets and star systems he had visited since the time he was saved by the Duke from the ultra mad Baron on Giedi Prime. Gurney knew all about ultimate terrible suffering at the hands of super evil men.

He packed his favorite lasgun next to his shield generator, he was careful to leave the safety on. Years of training and fighting for the Atreides has made him so. If the lasgun were to discharge while the shield generator was active, the explosion could kill anyone in the blast area not wearing a shield charged to full.
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