Poll on Guilt Casting in the next book

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How much Guilt Casting will appear in Sisterhood of Dune?

None! Keith and Brian actually heard the gripes!
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27%
It will be mentioned at least once I'm sure.
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27%
There will be at least one chapter on it.
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9%
There will be a whole plot line weaved into the fabric of the story.
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No votes
Are you kidding, the whole book is going to be about Guilt Casting.
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36%
 
Total votes: 11

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Re: Poll on Guilt Casting in the next book

Postby Superdog » 23 Oct 2010 17:12

SandChigger wrote:Actually, that's another, really good point against its introduction in Winds, where it's presented as something developed relatively (or relativistically? snicker) recently, that Jessica had only heard rumors of: Why did it take the BG more than ten thousand years to come up with it?

And the "BG never forget!" point is the killer objection to the "bimbombs" of the Legends books. ;)


Being able to explode yourself would have come in pretty damn handy against the Honored Matres.

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Re: Poll on Guilt Casting in the next book

Postby Kojiro » 23 Oct 2010 18:13

Wait... the McDune'd Bene Gesserit had suicide bombers?
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Re: Poll on Guilt Casting in the next book

Postby Shaitan » 23 Oct 2010 20:53

Kojiro wrote:Wait... the McDune'd Bene Gesserit had suicide bombers?


Their supposed predecessors, the Sorceresses of Rossak.
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Re: Poll on Guilt Casting in the next book

Postby SandChigger » 23 Oct 2010 23:21

Kojiro wrote:Wait... the McDune'd Bene Gesserit had suicide bombers?

At some point sheer disbelief will prompt you to look at the books. You know it. There is no escape. :lol:

Yep. Exploding Witches of Rossack. Their heads exploded, producing an EMP that fried the cymek's human brains (all Jans-in-their-pans). Or some such stupid shit.

In about a week or so I'm going to start going back through the Legends books and filling in the synposis pages on HToD. I'll post a note here when I put them up, and you can get more of a taste. ;)

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Re: Poll on Guilt Casting in the next book

Postby Shaitan » 23 Oct 2010 23:36

I always found it to be one of the stupidest things about the Prequels; if the BG (in the form of the Sorceresses) had the ability to suicidally obliterate any human brain within range, they would have held onto that capability in the future when -- as has been mentioned -- it would have come in DAMN handy against enemies like the Honored Matres.

And of course if abilities like those that the "Oracle of Time" displays are possible to be bred in others, that represents a whole 'nother can of worms which Frank would have at least had the foresight to address in some way if it were really part of his vision of the Dune canon.

I actually liked a lot of aspects of the Norma Cenva storyline. But she was way too much of a superbeing. Her abilities practically make the whole rest of the series unnecessary. It seems like she could have resolved the whole Kralizec thing all on her own, the way KJA vomited up....er, I mean wrote it.
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Re: Poll on Guilt Casting in the next book

Postby merkin muffley » 24 Oct 2010 11:44

SandChigger wrote:Yep. Exploding Witches of Rossack. Their heads exploded, producing an EMP that fried the cymek's human brains (all Jans-in-their-pans). Or some such stupid shit.


Good Lord. At this point, I wouldn't be that surprised to hear there was modulated queefing in McDune. "Relax, Duncan, that was just an ass-fart."
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Re: Poll on Guilt Casting in the next book

Postby Nekhrun » 24 Oct 2010 12:29

merkin muffley wrote:Good Lord. At this point, I wouldn't be that surprised to hear there was modulated queefing in McDune.

I'd like to see them use this to try and copy the whistling language to control servants.
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Re: Poll on Guilt Casting in the next book

Postby Superdog » 24 Oct 2010 14:52

Shaitan wrote:I always found it to be one of the stupidest things about the Prequels; if the BG (in the form of the Sorceresses) had the ability to suicidally obliterate any human brain within range, they would have held onto that capability in the future when -- as has been mentioned -- it would have come in DAMN handy against enemies like the Honored Matres.

And of course if abilities like those that the "Oracle of Time" displays are possible to be bred in others, that represents a whole 'nother can of worms which Frank would have at least had the foresight to address in some way if it were really part of his vision of the Dune canon.

I actually liked a lot of aspects of the Norma Cenva storyline. But she was way too much of a superbeing. Her abilities practically make the whole rest of the series unnecessary. It seems like she could have resolved the whole Kralizec thing all on her own, the way KJA vomited up....er, I mean wrote it.


If I recall she had a bunch of kids too, so all her abilities, which include but are not limited to: shape-changing and EMP blasts, should be in the BG gene pool.

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Re: Poll on Guilt Casting in the next book

Postby SandChigger » 24 Oct 2010 17:01

And that leads to one of the killer objections to Norma Dea ex Machina: Leto II claimed to have lived her, which means he necessarily was descended from one of her children, and either they or their children would at least have been aware of what happened to their mother, meaning he would have been as well.

Yet the most important thing he can think of to say about her is she had some kids and was the one who really designed the first Guild ship? Right. ;)
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Re: Poll on Guilt Casting in the next book

Postby Shaitan » 25 Oct 2010 01:02

BH/KJA need to experience some "guilt casting" for themselves.

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Re: Poll on Guilt Casting in the next book

Postby SandChigger » 25 Oct 2010 04:41

:clap: :clap: :clap:

(His fans might even get that, since most of them have been geshtucked to his ass since his Star Wars books. :laughing: )
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Re: Poll on Guilt Casting in the next book

Postby Serkanner » 25 Oct 2010 05:52

Shaitan wrote:BH/KJA need to experience some "guilt casting" for themselves.

"As if a million voices cried out in horror at the terrible writing of money-grubbing 'authors'....and were suddenly silenced."


It's VERmillion :wink:
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Re: Poll on Guilt Casting in the next book

Postby SandChigger » 25 Oct 2010 20:16

Oh, Hells, NOOOOO! :lol:

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Re: Poll on Guilt Casting in the next book

Postby Kojiro » 25 Oct 2010 22:13

Sometimes it's vermilion.
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