Heroes of Dune predictions: What are you betting on?

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Re: Heroes of Dune predictions: What are you betting on?

Postby Freakzilla » 11 Jun 2010 16:05

TheDukester wrote:
DuneFishUK wrote:Probably not a re-write... but extra chapters based on the notes (and "bridging the gaps") are possible.

Unspeakable.

(Let's not speak of it :hand: )

[Although you're probably right ...]


Although I couldn't think of anything more blasphemous... but I think they'd do it just to add contradictions.
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Re: Heroes of Dune predictions: What are you betting on?

Postby TheDukester » 11 Jun 2010 16:44

If that door ever truly does open, Spanky and Bobo will go sprinting through it.

For Bobo, it's the ultimate revenge on his father. End of story.

For Spanky, it's the ultimate fanboy wet dream and a gigantic ego trip all wrapped up in a single tidy package. Being in charge of all things Dune is old news by now ... but this would be where he shows the world how Dune should have been written** and where he etches his name into the annals of SF history!

** Eighteen action scenes added; much of that icky political stuff removed. Opening chapter re-written so that Duke Leto says, "You've never been off-world, have you? ... Oh, wait, except for all those Young Indiana Atreides adventures! What the fuck was I thinking?"
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Re: Heroes of Dune predictions: What are you betting on?

Postby D Pope » 11 Jun 2010 17:01

Oh man, this was the evil vision I mentioned. Say it'll never happen! Even if you don't believe it, I need to!
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Re: Heroes of Dune predictions: What are you betting on?

Postby DuneFishUK » 11 Jun 2010 18:55

"I drew my knife and slew twenty Sardaukar by my own hand."


..fix'd :roll: :(

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Re: Heroes of Dune predictions: What are you betting on?

Postby Hunchback Jack » 13 Jun 2010 00:39

There are gaps between the "books" in the first novel.

God help us.

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Re: Heroes of Dune predictions: What are you betting on?

Postby Freakzilla » 13 Jun 2010 01:06

Hunchback Jack wrote:There are gaps between the "books" in the first novel.

God help us.

HBJ


I was thinking about that yesterday. I think the biggest is between books 2 and 3?
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Re: Heroes of Dune predictions: What are you betting on?

Postby merkin muffley » 13 Jun 2010 03:50

Freakzilla wrote:
Hunchback Jack wrote:There are gaps between the "books" in the first novel.

God help us.

HBJ


I was thinking about that yesterday. I think the biggest is between books 2 and 3?



These guys will never stop urinating on Gurney's character. If they do the unthinkable and try to write within DUNE, a lot of it will be Gurney's rise amongst the smugglers, during which he will kill a lot of people under circumstances that make him seem bloodthirsty, petty, and make us wonder why Duke Leto ever would've trusted him as a leader of men. They did it in Paul of Dune, and they'll do it in Throne of Dune and in The Amazing Worm Man's Golden Path of Dune.
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Re: Heroes of Dune predictions: What are you betting on?

Postby Hunchback Jack » 13 Jun 2010 13:10

Freakzilla wrote:
Hunchback Jack wrote:There are gaps between the "books" in the first novel.

God help us.

HBJ


I was thinking about that yesterday. I think the biggest is between books 2 and 3?


Yes. Book 2 follows on almost immediately from book 1. Book 3 is "almost two years" after the Harkonnen attack on Arrakis.

Frank Herbert, in Dune, Book III, wrote:The Baron scanned the faces around him, seeing the looks of frantic quiet in them. He returned his attention to Nefud, and spoke in a silken tone:
"How long have you been my guard captain, Nefud?"
Nefud swallowed. "Since Arrakis, my Lord. Almost two years."


Dare I speculate on "Dune: The Lost Years", by Keith Journeyman Hackerson and the Other Guy?

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Re: Heroes of Dune predictions: What are you betting on?

Postby merkin muffley » 13 Jun 2010 13:31

Hunchback Jack wrote:Dare I speculate on "Dune: The Lost Years", by Keith Journeyman Hackerson and the Other Guy?


The Chronicles of Halleck. It would also feature lots of scenes of Muad'Dib killing people as he gets into the position to take on the Emperor. They like to fill in the gaps between the psychologically-interesting events with wordcount.
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Re: Heroes of Dune predictions: What are you betting on?

Postby Lundse » 13 Jun 2010 14:13

Next up:

The Naib of Dune to Stilgar of Dune
Slaughtering Sardukars and Harkonnens, and "musing" about Paul's rise to power back home. Also, disabling an Ixian no-globe-shielded-pseudo-ultra-KH-clone with some help from mysterious Muadru writings and a timely intervention from an oracle who never gives her name.

The Knives of Dune to Jamis of Sietch Tabr of Dune
Flashbacks to slaughtering Harkonnens as a child, seeing visions of some bint who claims he must give up his life for Pauls sake. More flashbacks - his family is wiped out by Ixian intelligent serrated hunter-seeker-swarms dipped in burning, acidic poison. Meeting Paul before any other fremen and setting the whole thing up. More flashbacks, killing a Fenring-clone. Being carried into an alternate dimension by Norma. Flashback to how he met Harah. Meeting Harah in the afterlife, reminiscing on how they met in a word-for-word repetition of the previous chapter.

Harah of Paul's Lodgings of Sietch Tabr of Dune to the Concubines of Dune volume I / XX
Cleaning house, throwing babies at Sardukars, trying to poison Chani, trying to seduce Paul, pretending to befriend Chani, sleeping with a scarred, Baliset-playing smuggler on the side, sleeping with Norma the mysterious travller from the desert, trying to really befriend (!) Chani, serving spice-coffee, befriending Jessica, befriending Alia-the-child-who-speaks-but-is-as-retarded-as-anyone, really befriending (!) Jessica until she sees Gurney arrive at the Sietch, trying to poison Gurney, serving more coffee, trying to poison Jessica, befriending Alia who is now suddenly eerily adult in the entirely wrong sense (!!!!), running of to set off the atomics to blast the shield wall when she notices someone forgot the Ixian tachyon-Mr.-Fusion-ignition-cables and running back home so noone would notice, finishing up the Baron who was not really dead from the poison, saving Chani from a hyper-worm born from a mutant Tleilax-mother-of-all-gods-what-were-they-thinking-please-god-kill-us-now-Axolotl-tank.


This is easy :-) I could make a fortune doing this!

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Re: Heroes of Dune predictions: What are you betting on?

Postby Hunchback Jack » 13 Jun 2010 14:38

That's actually a little horrifying.

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Re: Heroes of Dune predictions: What are you betting on?

Postby Tleszer » 13 Jun 2010 18:49

I think I vomited a little after reading that, Lundse.
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Re: Heroes of Dune predictions: What are you betting on?

Postby SandChigger » 13 Jun 2010 20:33

INSPIRED! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
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