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Posted: 17 Jun 2008 18:51
by A Thing of Eternity
Man, FH was obsessed! Almost every book of his that I've read has had someone wearing a unitard... I can't even think of one that didn't off the top of my head.

Posted: 17 Jun 2008 21:37
by Hunchback Jack
Well, unitards and stretchy fabric are very 60's and 70s futurism. Just look at the SF movies at the time.


Posted: 17 Jun 2008 21:42
by SandChigger
Evidently SpiceGrandson thinks that the Marty and Daniel passages have that good ole Frank feel.


Posted: 18 Jun 2008 17:41
by LiquidBlue
My favorite part so far is how Spicegrandson says, in reference to Rinya's failed attempt at the agony.

"Agreed. Her pride got in the way of common sense. Her love for her mother, too, got in the way. She wanted to prove to her mother that she was ready ...when she wasn't. Pretty sad."

Do you really think FH was headed in this direction? I feel like he spent most of HoD and CH:D trying to correct the absence of love/affection in the BG. That seemed to be the purpose of Odrade as a character.

I like the little part about how he said that Rinya died proving herself to her mother. Maybe its some backdoor way to justify BH's inability to fill Frank's shoes. There really is not textual evidence to support this interpretation.

"Rinya had always been the more aggressive of the twins, goal drive, reaching for the impossible. She wanted to become a Reverend Mother as young as Sheeana had been."

There is more explanation of how Rinya contained great potential which just repeats the idea of the above quote in new and inventive ways :wink:

Posted: 18 Jun 2008 19:55
by Phaedrus
I would think that Bene Gesserit are taught the failings of being so headstrong and "goal-driven" that they end up dead.

Posted: 18 Jun 2008 20:37
by LiquidBlue
I'll claim that typo :) For once it wasn't KJA or BH's fault...

I think the whole BG thing goes haywire in the hands of KJABH, this is yet another example...I have to agree with you Phaedrus

Posted: 18 Jun 2008 21:28
by Phaedrus
That's a quote from the books? The writing is so bad I thought it was Spice Grandson in his thread.

From what I read of Hunters, they completely missed the last two books of the original Dune series. The Bene Gesserit are portrayed horrible. The Honored Matres, are, too, but that's to be expected.