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Postby A Thing of Eternity » 02 Jul 2008 19:49

Damned ninja.
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Postby Hunchback Jack » 03 Jul 2008 13:47

Thanks very much for the quote. Very interesting, indeed.

Pesumably, this means that lasguns bolts are a coherant beam of light from gun to target?

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Postby Freakzilla » 03 Jul 2008 14:07

Hunchback Jack wrote:Thanks very much for the quote. Very interesting, indeed.

Pesumably, this means that lasguns bolts are a coherant beam of light from gun to target?

HBJ


Yes, see Heretics of Dune when Teg mows down Face Dancers, trees, glowglobes, etc. by sweeping the beam back and forth down the slope of the hill, or later when Taraza is cut in half

...or in Dune, after Paul breached the Shield Wall with the Family Atomics, he yells at the Fremen for using lasguns to cut up fallen debris.
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Postby A Thing of Eternity » 03 Jul 2008 14:11

Hunchback Jack wrote:Thanks very much for the quote. Very interesting, indeed.

Pesumably, this means that lasguns bolts are a coherant beam of light from gun to target?

HBJ


Sorry if I'm missing something obvious, but what's the other option for a laser?
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Postby Freakzilla » 03 Jul 2008 14:20

A Thing of Eternity wrote:
Hunchback Jack wrote:Thanks very much for the quote. Very interesting, indeed.

Pesumably, this means that lasguns bolts are a coherant beam of light from gun to target?

HBJ


Sorry if I'm missing something obvious, but what's the other option for a laser?


A bolt, like in SW?
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Postby Tleilax Master B » 03 Jul 2008 14:24

A Thing of Eternity wrote:
Hunchback Jack wrote:Thanks very much for the quote. Very interesting, indeed.

Pesumably, this means that lasguns bolts are a coherant beam of light from gun to target?

HBJ


Sorry if I'm missing something obvious, but what's the other option for a laser?


Short bursts. He means, a continuous beam with no break or interruption until the trigger (or whatever) is released. Like a firehose.
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Postby A Thing of Eternity » 03 Jul 2008 14:46

Freakzilla wrote:
A Thing of Eternity wrote:
Hunchback Jack wrote:Thanks very much for the quote. Very interesting, indeed.

Pesumably, this means that lasguns bolts are a coherant beam of light from gun to target?

HBJ


Sorry if I'm missing something obvious, but what's the other option for a laser?


A bolt, like in SW?


Oh... a light bolt traveling slower than light? Not very SF for my tastes, but then again, I barely even consider SW SF.

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Tleilax Master B wrote:
A Thing of Eternity wrote:
Hunchback Jack wrote:Thanks very much for the quote. Very interesting, indeed.

Pesumably, this means that lasguns bolts are a coherant beam of light from gun to target?

HBJ


Sorry if I'm missing something obvious, but what's the other option for a laser?


Short bursts. He means, a continuous beam with no break or interruption until the trigger (or whatever) is released. Like a firehose.


Oh. Even if it was just a really short burst there would still be a coherant beam back to the gun unless it was very, very short, or the target was very, very distant.

I get it now though. :D
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Postby Freakzilla » 03 Jul 2008 14:50

Just like modern military rifles, I'm sure you could choose the length of the burn the way you can choose between full auto/burst or semi-auto.
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Postby Phaedrus » 03 Jul 2008 18:00

A Thing of Eternity wrote:Sorry if I'm missing something obvious, but what's the other option for a laser?


Actually, lasers are coherent by definition.

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Postby A Thing of Eternity » 03 Jul 2008 21:33

Phaedrus wrote:
A Thing of Eternity wrote:Sorry if I'm missing something obvious, but what's the other option for a laser?


Actually, lasers are coherent by definition.

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That's my point.
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Postby Hunchback Jack » 03 Jul 2008 23:40

Yeah, sorry, I meant a continuous beam of light, as opposed to star-wars-like bolts of light that separate from the gun before hitting the target.

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Postby orald » 04 Jul 2008 10:11

Freak, I don't think you could make a short enough burst that'll end and clear the gun before hitting the target in a system that shoots laser beams(speed of light and all) unless used in great distances, surely not the typical sub/light-MG ranges that lasguns seem to be used at.
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Postby SandChigger » 04 Jul 2008 21:03

The target would have to be over 300,000 km away (about 80% of the distance from the Earth to the Moon) and the burst duration (much?) less than 1000 milliseconds to see something like the SW or other show/movie energy weapon bolt effect (if then?).

As Orald points out, that's WAY farther than the interactions we have descriptions of, so...

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Postby Phaedrus » 04 Jul 2008 22:06

You'd also need a much more focused laser.

(Not very scientific terminology, but I've been learning computer stuffs all day, don't hate.)


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