What are the chances of the new movie not being a disaster?

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Re: What are the chances of the new movie not being a disaster?

Postby merkin muffley » 29 Apr 2010 00:48

KJA and Brian Herbert have co-producer credits, which is almost always tokenistic. In this case, I'm sure it's tokenistic. They threw these guys an empty title, and it wasn't for their creative genius. If they're claiming that they have significant input into this film, they're lying.

Of course, they will try to make it seem like they have something to do with the movie because they're twats.
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Re: What are the chances of the new movie not being a disaster?

Postby TheDukester » 29 Apr 2010 13:24

merkin muffley wrote:They threw these guys an empty title, and it wasn't for their creative genius.

Exactly. It's pretty obvious that the HLP insisted on having some sort of representation. But "producer" is the most thrown-around title in Hollywood; it's lost almost all meaning.

We've talked about this before, but it bears repeating. If this thing ever starts filming, no one is going to give a damn what the Rotund Hiker and The Other Guy have to say. It won't matter in Bobo's case; he won't last three days in L.A. (or on set). Those people will eat him alive. In Keith's case, they'll just tune him out completely. If he actually pisses off the director, he'll be told to fuck right off.

It's also very significant that neither of the morons in question has been let anywhere near any of the scriptwriting. That sends a pretty clear message.
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Re: What are the chances of the new movie not being a disaster?

Postby Freakzilla » 29 Apr 2010 15:46

TheDukester wrote:If he actually pisses off the director, he'll be told to fuck right off.


Morel's supposedly read Dune ten times, right? If that's true it won't take him long to figure out KJA doesn't know WTF he's talking about.
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Re: What are the chances of the new movie not being a disaster?

Postby lotek » 29 Apr 2010 16:10

still i find 10 times is not a lot...
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Re: What are the chances of the new movie not being a disaster?

Postby Freakzilla » 29 Apr 2010 16:20

lotek wrote:still i find 10 times is not a lot...


I've read it over ten times and still get something new out of it... but that's at least ten times more than KJA.
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Re: What are the chances of the new movie not being a disaster?

Postby A Thing of Eternity » 29 Apr 2010 16:28

10 times is plenty, I've only been through it twice. Yes, you need more to be an absolute expert and recall as much by memory as some guys like Freak and Chig can, but it's not like they won't have a copy around to refer to for details and such.
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Re: What are the chances of the new movie not being a disaster?

Postby lotek » 29 Apr 2010 16:52

it goes further than mere reference though, as Freak said every read brings something new, and I truly believe you cannot grasp all the subtlelities just by using a concordance ;)
what I mean is it's one of those stories you have to breathe, eat and drink to get close to getting all the intricacies of the themes to be able to translate that into images

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Re: What are the chances of the new movie not being a disaster?

Postby A Thing of Eternity » 29 Apr 2010 16:58

Of course, but 10 times is more than enough to get that kind of understanding of the book. Not to know every single detail and have unravelled every little secret, but is any number of reads enough for that? FH probably didn't even realize how much he put into the book. 10 is plenty for just making a movie of it, and really it doesn't even matter the number of times. Me having read it twice could do a better job than someone like KJA or Berg even if they'd read it 50 times.
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Re: What are the chances of the new movie not being a disaster?

Postby Freakzilla » 29 Apr 2010 17:23

A Thing of Eternity wrote:Of course, but 10 times is more than enough to get that kind of understanding of the book. Not to know every single detail and have unravelled every little secret, but is any number of reads enough for that? FH probably didn't even realize how much he put into the book. 10 is plenty for just making a movie of it, and really it doesn't even matter the number of times. Me having read it twice could do a better job than someone like KJA or Berg even if they'd read it 50 times.


There's people here that probably have read it once and understand it better than KJA.
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Re: What are the chances of the new movie not being a disaster?

Postby lotek » 29 Apr 2010 18:26

i sometimes think he didn't read the same book
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Re: What are the chances of the new movie not being a disaster?

Postby Ampoliros » 29 Apr 2010 19:24

I think he read enough to know that wierding modules weren't in it so he stopped the Lynch version and picked up the SciFi miniseries. He's 'read' that several times!

I mean come on, the guy considers dicta-hiking to be 'writing' and spellcheck and a movie to be 'editing', is it that much of a stretch that he's only watched the DVD and skimmed the book? We know he's skimmed at least part of the appendix because he found that gem about sorceresses with real powers!
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Re: What are the chances of the new movie not being a disaster?

Postby Freakzilla » 29 Apr 2010 19:58

Ampoliros wrote:We know he's skimmed at least part of the appendix because he found that gem about sorceresses with real powers!


He got that from me at DN. :P
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Re: What are the chances of the new movie not being a disaster?

Postby Superdog » 29 Apr 2010 20:01

The problem might not be Pierre Morel, who doesn't write his own movies. IMDB says the writer is Chase Palmer, who has no previous writing credits to speak of.

FTR Liam Neeson would make a perfect Leto Atreides.

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Re: What are the chances of the new movie not being a disaster?

Postby Freakzilla » 29 Apr 2010 20:17

Superdog wrote:The problem might not be Pierre Morel, who doesn't write his own movies. IMDB says the writer is Chase Palmer, who has no previous writing credits to speak of.


Most directors don't, do they? But they do have final say in what goes in as far as I understand, so Morel will be able to check him.
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Re: What are the chances of the new movie not being a disaster?

Postby SandChigger » 30 Apr 2010 01:01

A Thing of Eternity wrote:Yes, you need more to be an absolute expert and recall as much by memory as some guys like Freak and Chig can, but it's not like they won't have a copy around to refer to for details and such.

Ugh, just stop already! :roll:

Didn't you pay any attention to Hyppo? I'm a complete idiot without my electronic copies and a search/GREP function! :cry:


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Re: What are the chances of the new movie not being a disaster?

Postby inhuien » 30 Apr 2010 07:16

Superdog wrote:The problem might not be Pierre Morel, who doesn't write his own movies. IMDB says the writer is Chase Palmer, who has no previous writing credits to speak of.

Chase Palmer's shorts. I think the guys got talent and am not completely hopeless with him being screenwriter for Dune.

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Re: What are the chances of the new movie not being a disaster?

Postby lotek » 30 Apr 2010 07:25

all right it's still that same guy then :)
i kinda lost track but I remember watching Shock and Awe and it was very good with showing the unvoiceable so yeah there is a possibity that he might be able to pull it off
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Re: What are the chances of the new movie not being a disaster?

Postby Superdog » 30 Apr 2010 19:40

Freakzilla wrote:
Superdog wrote:The problem might not be Pierre Morel, who doesn't write his own movies. IMDB says the writer is Chase Palmer, who has no previous writing credits to speak of.


Most directors don't, do they? But they do have final say in what goes in as far as I understand, so Morel will be able to check him.


All depends on how much power the studio gives to them and what contracts they sign.

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Re: What are the chances of the new movie not being a disaster?

Postby Superdog » 30 Apr 2010 19:41

Superdog wrote:The problem might not be Pierre Morel, who doesn't write his own movies. IMDB says the writer is Chase Palmer, who has no previous writing credits to speak of.

FTR Liam Neeson would make a perfect Leto Atreides.


Also:

Edward James Olmos as Gurney Halleck
Lance Henriksen as Thufir Hawat

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Re: What are the chances of the new movie not being a disaster?

Postby SandChigger » 30 Apr 2010 21:07

Superdog wrote:
Superdog wrote:FTR Liam Neeson would make a perfect Leto Atreides.

Also:

Edward James Olmos as Gurney Halleck
Lance Henriksen as Thufir Hawat

I for one absolutely abhor casting threads, but these were interesting. ;)

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Re: What are the chances of the new movie not being a disaster?

Postby Superdog » 30 Apr 2010 22:52

SandChigger wrote:
Superdog wrote:
Superdog wrote:FTR Liam Neeson would make a perfect Leto Atreides.

Also:

Edward James Olmos as Gurney Halleck
Lance Henriksen as Thufir Hawat

I for one absolutely abhor casting threads, but these were interesting. ;)


Sorry. Couldn't help myself. :)

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Re: What are the chances of the new movie not being a disaster?

Postby SandChigger » 30 Apr 2010 23:10

Ack! No need to be sorry, it's just a statement of personal preferences! :oops:

Just means I generally won't participate in such threads (except to make snide comments about them). Unless of course it's a VISUAL thread with lots of near-nudey pix! ;) :dance:

I've been a fan of Olmos since his Miami Vice days (in real time! :character-oldtimer: ) and Henriksen is just too creeeeepy kewl. :lol: (Neeson's OK, but I'm just lukewarm. He could do a good Leto.) :)

(Of course, since I'm hoping this will be a MASSIVE FAIL, I'd hate to see it hung around the necks of actors/actresses I really like. :? )

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Re: What are the chances of the new movie not being a disaster?

Postby Ampoliros » 30 Apr 2010 23:22

Jurgen was a nigh-perfect Leto imho.

I still like having Jet Li as Duncan and for Baron Harkonnen?

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Re: What are the chances of the new movie not being a disaster?

Postby Redstar » 30 Apr 2010 23:45

I liked him in NBC's Kings. Pretty much the only reason I watched the show.

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Re: What are the chances of the new movie not being a disaster?

Postby Superdog » 01 May 2010 14:50

Ampoliros wrote:Jurgen was a nigh-perfect Leto imho.

I still like having Jet Li as Duncan and for Baron Harkonnen?

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Give Ian Mcshane a fat suit and I could totally see it. Johnny Dep with long hair and a bit of facial hair as Duncan Idaho?


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