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Dune SE (1984) Extended Edition Prologue

Posted: 30 Apr 2010 22:26
by Freakzilla
I just popped in my extended version and durring the prologue the narrator dates the time before the BJ when men were ruled by thinking machines, computers and robots at 6,041.

Anyone have any idea where that date comes from?

Re: Dune SE (1984) Extended Edition Prologue

Posted: 30 Apr 2010 22:36
by Freakzilla
...also, the current date is given as 10,192. :?

Re: Dune SE (1984) Extended Edition Prologue

Posted: 30 Apr 2010 22:44
by Redstar
I noticed that as well on my last viewing, but never bothered bringing it up since I figured no one would care about what the Lynch version offered. Still interesting.

Re: Dune SE (1984) Extended Edition Prologue

Posted: 30 Apr 2010 22:49
by Freakzilla
I can't make any sense at all out of 6,041. Not even as a CE/AD date.

Re: Dune SE (1984) Extended Edition Prologue

Posted: 30 Apr 2010 23:19
by SandChigger
Redstar wrote:I noticed that as well on my last viewing, but never bothered bringing it up since I figured no one would care about what the Lynch version offered. Still interesting.

:naughty:

;)

Yeah, that date doesn't even make sense in terms of Fukd'Dune chronology. As a pre-Jihad date, it would only make sense as B.G. That would give 11,000 - 6,041 = 4,959 years after Humankind ventures forth into "deep space".

If FH had anything to do with it, maybe he was drunk or whacked out on Mexican 'shrooms when he came up with it? ;)

Re: Dune SE (1984) Extended Edition Prologue

Posted: 01 May 2010 00:09
by Freakzilla
SandChigger wrote:That would give 11,000 - 6,041 = 4,959 years after Humankind ventures forth into "deep space".


Not following you there, maybe I need one of those 'shrooms. :?

Re: Dune SE (1984) Extended Edition Prologue

Posted: 01 May 2010 00:46
by Omphalos
I think KJA was an executive producer on the Lynch movie. I bet he got that date from Kevin.

Re: Dune SE (1984) Extended Edition Prologue

Posted: 01 May 2010 01:26
by Freakzilla
Omphalos wrote:I think KJA was an executive producer on the Lynch movie. I bet he got that date from Kevin.


No way, Keith hadn't even heard of Dune until he saw the movie.

Re: Dune SE (1984) Extended Edition Prologue

Posted: 01 May 2010 06:02
by inhuien
I take it your meaning the Alan Smithee TV version, that things a cluster fuck of inattention.

Although the extra scenes are nice/funny/outrageous.


Re: Dune SE (1984) Extended Edition Prologue

Posted: 01 May 2010 06:29
by SandChigger
Freakzilla wrote:
SandChigger wrote:That would give 11,000 - 6,041 = 4,959 years after Humankind ventures forth into "deep space".


Not following you there, maybe I need one of those 'shrooms. :?

Actually, I made a mistake in calculating from Guild Prime instead of the Jihad dates, but that only makes it off by 201 years, which isn't a biggie when you're talking millennia.

Anyway, what I meant was that if the date is 6041 B.J. (=6242 B.G.), and the Jihad takes place "one hundred and ten centuries" after Humankind begins "mov[ing] through deep space", the the supposed subjugation of humankind by machines would take place 4,959 years after whenever that first journey through deep space takes place.

Not really worth considering of making much of. It's obviously something silly they threw in for that ridiculous prologue. :hand: :lol:

Re: Dune SE (1984) Extended Edition Prologue

Posted: 01 May 2010 13:15
by merkin muffley
SandChigger wrote:It's obviously something silly they threw in for that ridiculous prologue. :hand: :lol:


I think they threw in all of the raw footage for that extended edition. I think we've now seen one take from every shot they tried when they made that movie, and they even threw in the fucking pre-production sketches. I wouldn't be surprised if they just used a random number. Somewhere halfway between zero and 10,191. I mean 10,192.

Although, I have to say, they did give Gurney an awesome baliset solo in that deleted scene. I'm glad they still listen to 70's genero-rock ballads in 10,191. I mean, 10,192.

Re: Dune SE (1984) Extended Edition Prologue

Posted: 01 May 2010 20:23
by SandChigger
If I recall correctly there were factual errors in Irulan's voice-over prologue, too.

(I like that baliset clip, too. I think KJA must have seen it and got the idea that a baliset contains a spinning wheel from it. ;) )

(At least, I don't remember anything like that from the original books.)

Re: Dune SE (1984) Extended Edition Prologue

Posted: 02 May 2010 04:33
by inhuien
I imagine he got his wires crossed with the Hurdy Gurdy.
Image

Re: Dune SE (1984) Extended Edition Prologue

Posted: 02 May 2010 04:35
by lotek
i think his wires are permanently crossed...

no wait that's Bobo, kja's got only one...

Re: Dune SE (1984) Extended Edition Prologue

Posted: 16 May 2010 00:03
by cmsahe

Re: Dune SE (1984) Extended Edition Prologue

Posted: 16 May 2010 11:49
by SandRider
inhuien wrote:I imagine he got his wires crossed with the Hurdy Gurdy.
Image


I have one of those ...

Re: Dune SE (1984) Extended Edition Prologue

Posted: 16 May 2010 14:39
by Omphalos
SandRider wrote:
inhuien wrote:I imagine he got his wires crossed with the Hurdy Gurdy.
Image


I have one of those ...


Really? Ive always wanted one.

Re: Dune SE (1984) Extended Edition Prologue

Posted: 16 May 2010 15:26
by inhuien
SandRider wrote:
inhuien wrote:I imagine he got his wires crossed with the Hurdy Gurdy.
Image


I have one of those ...

YOU'RE the Hurdy Gurdy man!!

Re: Dune SE (1984) Extended Edition Prologue

Posted: 16 May 2010 16:09
by Nekhrun
I stayed in a town in Iceland named Hveragerði that was affectionately called Hurdy Gurdy.

There was no music though, just a tourist stop and people getting drunk.

Re: Dune SE (1984) Extended Edition Prologue

Posted: 18 May 2010 14:31
by Eru
I saw an "organ grinder" in Helen, GA once, who had a real monkey, but a boombox playing music :lol: