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Re: Fan made animated Dune movie intro

Postby A Thing of Eternity » 15 Nov 2010 00:39

Freakzilla wrote:The stillsuits in the minis were more accurate than those in the movie. At least they had hoods with face masks. I believe they had cloaks over them, too.


Yeah, then they had to go and have an outdoor sietch... not really sure what the point of that fairly major detail change was (I understand books have to be changed to make movies, but I like to understand the reason behind the changes).
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Re: Fan made animated Dune movie intro

Postby Freakzilla » 15 Nov 2010 10:04

A Thing of Eternity wrote:
Freakzilla wrote:The stillsuits in the minis were more accurate than those in the movie. At least they had hoods with face masks. I believe they had cloaks over them, too.


Yeah, then they had to go and have an outdoor sietch... not really sure what the point of that fairly major detail change was (I understand books have to be changed to make movies, but I like to understand the reason behind the changes).


Yes, that was very weird.
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Re: Fan made animated Dune movie intro

Postby Robspierre » 15 Nov 2010 20:28

Freakzilla wrote:
A Thing of Eternity wrote:
Freakzilla wrote:The stillsuits in the minis were more accurate than those in the movie. At least they had hoods with face masks. I believe they had cloaks over them, too.


Yeah, then they had to go and have an outdoor sietch... not really sure what the point of that fairly major detail change was (I understand books have to be changed to make movies, but I like to understand the reason behind the changes).


Yes, that was very weird.


That was so they could show the spice orgy for the extended cut; and Chani's breasts.

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Re: Fan made animated Dune movie intro

Postby SandChigger » 15 Nov 2010 20:41

Robspierre wrote:Chan'is breasts

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(It's not the breasts I object to, but the apostrophized separation. ;) )

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Re: Fan made animated Dune movie intro

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SandChigger wrote:
Robspierre wrote:Chani's breasts

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(It's not the breasts I object to, but the apostrophized separation. ;) )

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Re: Fan made animated Dune movie intro

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:lol: :clap:

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Re: Fan made animated Dune movie intro

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I'm glad somebody does. 8)

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Re: Fan made animated Dune movie intro

Postby Shaitan » 16 Nov 2010 03:03

A Thing of Eternity wrote:
Freakzilla wrote:The stillsuits in the minis were more accurate than those in the movie. At least they had hoods with face masks. I believe they had cloaks over them, too.


Yeah, then they had to go and have an outdoor sietch... not really sure what the point of that fairly major detail change was (I understand books have to be changed to make movies, but I like to understand the reason behind the changes).


God, that drove me nuts. Even worse, everyone was out in the open without stillsuits! The air doesn't magically get any less dry because somebody says the S-word!
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Re: Fan made animated Dune movie intro

Postby TheDukester » 16 Nov 2010 13:02

As opposed to stuffing a garden hose up your nose and not even bothering to cover the mouth or the top of the head, right ... ?

Yeah, that's an excellent conservation strategy. I mean, no one ever loses any moisture from the mouth or the top of the head, right? Right? Hello?

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Re: Fan made animated Dune movie intro

Postby SandChigger » 16 Nov 2010 19:09

Well, weren't they supposed to breathe in through their mouths and out through their noses? ("Shit and feces collect in your thigh pads. Yyyyeeeeeees!" Plop! ) ;)

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Re: Fan made animated Dune movie intro

Postby Shaitan » 16 Nov 2010 21:27

TheDukester wrote:As opposed to stuffing a garden hose up your nose and not even bothering to cover the mouth or the top of the head, right ... ?

Yeah, that's an excellent conservation strategy. I mean, no one ever loses any moisture from the mouth or the top of the head, right? Right? Hello?

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"Hey, Stilgar! It's pretty cool how this planet-wide desert only affects our noses, huh?

"Word up, Muad'Dib. 'Ware my Weirding Module! Heeeeeee-yah!"


Very true. I'll grant that the mouthpieces were clearly more accurate in the Syfy version. The suits were somewhat better in the Lynch version though I don't think they were ever described as black....and of course the cloaks were definitely more accurate in the miniseries; they were barely used at all in the Lynch version.
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Re: Fan made animated Dune movie intro

Postby Superdog » 16 Nov 2010 22:58

Why would they wear black when trekking around in the desert in broad daylight? It makes no sense.

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Re: Fan made animated Dune movie intro

Postby A Thing of Eternity » 17 Nov 2010 01:25

Superdog wrote:Why would they wear black when trekking around in the desert in broad daylight? It makes no sense.


If you had a cloak over it then it wouldn't make any difference, so the still suit itself could have been any colour.
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Re: Fan made animated Dune movie intro

Postby Freakzilla » 17 Nov 2010 01:37

They were grey with brown cloak in the book.
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Re: Fan made animated Dune movie intro

Postby SandChigger » 17 Nov 2010 11:10

Dude... you must be as drunk as I am... 'cause that made perfect sense. :lol:

Oh shit... I have to be up again in four hours! :shock:

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Re: Fan made animated Dune movie intro

Postby Freakzilla » 17 Nov 2010 13:53

SandChigger wrote:Dude... you must be as drunk as I am... 'cause that made perfect sense. :lol:

Oh shit... I have to be up again in four hours! :shock:

(hic :P )


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Re: Fan made animated Dune movie intro

Postby DuneFishUK » 17 Nov 2010 14:11

A Thing of Eternity wrote:
Superdog wrote:Why would they wear black when trekking around in the desert in broad daylight? It makes no sense.


If you had a cloak over it then it wouldn't make any difference, so the still suit itself could have been any colour.


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Re: Fan made animated Dune movie intro

Postby SandChigger » 17 Nov 2010 21:26

Freakzilla wrote:Is it already Thursday in Tomorrowland? :lol:

It was and it is! :P

I'm rather amazed. After all I ate and all the wine I drank last night (at a little to-do at my old hole-in-the-wall downtown), I'm surprised I'm functioning as well as I am. :shock:

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Re: Fan made animated Dune movie intro

Postby Shaitan » 18 Nov 2010 18:56

A Thing of Eternity wrote:
Superdog wrote:Why would they wear black when trekking around in the desert in broad daylight? It makes no sense.


If you had a cloak over it then it wouldn't make any difference, so the still suit itself could have been any colour.


I guess, but that just doesn't seem Fremen to me. A cloak could be destroyed or made useless by any number of things that could happen in the desert....so your stillsuit should be the most camouflaging color(s) possible and it should not absorb unnecessary amounts of solar energy by being darker than sand. Above all the Fremen are a practical people, and black ain't too practical in the desert. There's a reason you see so much white in the Bedouin wardrobe.
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Re: Fan made animated Dune movie intro

Postby Shaitan » 18 Nov 2010 18:59

DuneFishUK wrote:Four things cannot be hidden — love, smoke, a pillar of fire and a man striding across the open bled.


Indeed, but I don't think that has anything to do with simply being visible against the sand even if you're not in motion -- so camouflage is still important. I think that quote speaks to the dust that a "striding man" kicks up, and the tracks he leaves as well as his silhouette against the distant background (dunes, salt pan, mountains, sky) even if he happens to match the color of the sand immediately around him.
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Re: Fan made animated Dune movie intro

Postby A Thing of Eternity » 18 Nov 2010 19:01

Freak posted something a few posts up where FH actually did specify the colours, grey for the suit, and brown for the cloak.
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Re: Fan made animated Dune movie intro

Postby Freakzilla » 18 Nov 2010 19:35

Jamis stepped into the ring, slipped out of his robe and tossed it to
someone in the crowd. He stood there in a cloudy gray slickness of stillsuit
that was patched and marked by tucks and gathers.

...

Now, Paul saw the contents of the mound exposed: the pale glistening gray of
a stillsuit, a battered literjon, a kerchief with a small book in its center,
the bladeless handle of a crysknife, an empty sheath, a folded pack, a
paracompass, a distrans, a thumper, a pile of fist-sized metallic hooks, an
assortment of what looked like small rocks within a fold of cloth, a clump of
bundled feathers . . . and the baliset exposed beside the folded pack.

...

JUBBA CLOAK: the all-purpose cloak (it can beset to reflect or admit radiant
heat, converts to a hammock or shelter) commonly worn over a stillsuit on
Arrakis.


Couldn't find a quote for the color of the cloak, I'll look again later...
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Re: Fan made animated Dune movie intro

Postby Shaitan » 19 Nov 2010 04:32

Gray, that's right. I suppose as long as it's not any darker than the sand, then it's still halfway decent camoflauge esp. when coated in the stuff. Heck, spending so much time in or near sietch, I figure something closer to the color of stone than sand might be a wise choice. Of course, most of the time the jubba cloak is worn over and it presumably there are any number of cloak designs with different camo patterns etc.

I found the cloak designs in the Syfy miniseries passable but something just didn't seem right. I wonder what makes them "reflective or admissive" of radiant heat....
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Re: Fan made animated Dune movie intro

Postby Freakzilla » 19 Nov 2010 08:09

Shaitan wrote:...I wonder what makes them "reflective or admissive" of radiant heat....


I don't think it's ever mentioned again.
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