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Postby LiquidBlue » 16 Jun 2008 16:04

Thanks Bryan! That link is great...my husband and I argue over the prounaciation of made up words from fiction when ever we try to discuss the works...LoL...
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Postby GamePlayer » 16 Jun 2008 21:08

Fantastic! I loved that site. Glad we still have a link for it.

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Postby inhuien » 17 Jun 2008 04:19

Aye it is, just don't visit the forum as it turrned into a spam site for vendors of little blue pills.
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Postby GamePlayer » 17 Jun 2008 09:55

So that's why your avatar is always bouncing! :lol:

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I can honestly say that in this instance, at least, art is not mirroring life. :)
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Postby Omphalos » 17 Jun 2008 11:59

I have to source tapes for these recordings, and in one of them Herbert says the word "secher nbiw." Too bad that one didnt make it to the list here.

Also as a reminder for those of you who dig cool Dune shit, take a look at the Secondary Sources index. Here is the URL:

http://bb.solahpmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=4

You will find lots of stuff like this there.

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Re: Dune Pronunciation

Postby Freakzilla » 19 Apr 2009 17:42

I've been listening to the Audio Rennaisance Dune audio book today and just got to the "C.H.". I can't help but chuckle every time they say it.

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Re: Dune Pronunciation

Postby SandChigger » 19 Apr 2009 19:03

Who's the reader on that, and what kind of accent do they have?

I keep imagining this really bad hick "see-aytch". :shock:

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Postby Freakzilla » 19 Apr 2009 19:20

SandChigger wrote:Who's the reader on that, and what kind of accent do they have?

I keep imagining this really bad hick "see-aytch". :shock:


It's read by Scott Brick, Olagh Cassidy, Euan Morton, Simon Vance and "Cast". I first noted it by Hawat's character but they seem to all pronounce it the same way.

They all seem to have a slight English accent.
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Postby SandChigger » 20 Apr 2009 00:58

Yeah, a lot of people seem to think that Dune characters should have an English/British accent. Especially for the upcoming (and fantasized) movies.

Which makes absolutely no fucking sense, since they don't speak English.

(Wow ... this has remained the only active Dune-related thread here today. Has Jacurutu jumped the sandworm?)

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Postby A Thing of Eternity » 20 Apr 2009 01:56

SandChigger wrote:Yeah, a lot of people seem to think that Dune characters should have an English/British accent. Especially for the upcoming (and fantasized) movies.

Which makes absolutely no fucking sense, since they don't speak English.

(Wow ... this has remained the only active Dune-related thread here today. Has Jacurutu jumped the sandworm?)


Oh stop your grumpiness. :cat fight:
We tend to periodically get distracted arguing about guns and so forth. Nothing new, nothing to worry about. I'm going to re-read Messiah soon so I'm sure I'll have looootttttsss of questions for the people here if that makes you feel better. :wink:
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Re: Dune Pronunciation

Postby Redstar » 20 Apr 2009 05:37

Very helpful. When I first read Dune I assumed FH wanted everything pronounced super exotic, so I mispronounced things for a long while...

Atreides as "A-tray-uh-deez"

Harkonnen as "Hark-un-in" (Which is apparently the right way after all. I switched over to "Hark-cone-in")

And Bene Gesserit as "Bane Jess-er-it"


I'm still surprised that Chani is "Chany" rather than "Chun-eye"

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Re: Dune Pronunciation

Postby Rakis » 20 Apr 2009 09:42

Damn...I'm stuck with all the pronunciation from the movie and Mini...it never occurred to me they could messing with it... :shock:
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Postby SandChigger » 20 Apr 2009 11:03

The spelling of Chani makes no sense whatsoever, given FH's pronunciation of it as "Chay-nee" (to rhyme with "zany").


(And I'll be as grumpy as I please. If I wanted pointless or just plain stupid political "discussion", I'd hang out at FED2K.)

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Postby SandChigger » 20 Apr 2009 11:20

There's intelligent political discussion, and then there's stupid shit that would be better flushed onto a personal blog. Or just flushed, period.

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Postby GamePlayer » 20 Apr 2009 11:58

But, bitching is the official sport of the internets :)
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Postby SandChigger » 20 Apr 2009 19:50

:lol: Go teh internetz!

Seriously, though, he should have spelled it Cheini if that's how he intended to pronounce it. :ugeek:

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Postby GamePlayer » 20 Apr 2009 22:28

I vote for Chainy

Chainy's got a gun...

*machine gun fire echoes as the stereo is blasted to pieces*

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Postby inhuien » 21 Apr 2009 06:31

Didn't you all know Grumpy is the new "Black".
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Re: Dune Pronunciation

Postby SandChigger » 21 Apr 2009 10:09

No. But I have heard that 50 is the new 40. :P

That'll come in handy in a few years. ;)

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Postby SadisticCynic » 21 Apr 2009 10:28

Couldn't Chani be pronounced as it is and spelt 'phonetically incorrect' (if that's what its called) because of the natural changes in spelling that occur over time? Or do those changes also incorporate changes to pronunciation? I'm just thinking of things like the change in English of wulf to wolf or Wilhelm to William (second one looks obvious in terms of pronunciation but I know little about Old English pronunciation).
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Re: Dune Pronunciation

Postby Rakis » 21 Apr 2009 11:00

GamePlayer wrote:I vote for Chainy



How about Cheney...like Dick ? :lol:
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Postby Freakzilla » 21 Apr 2009 11:12

My wife insist on spelling our daughter's name wrong. Her name is Elizabeth and we call her Ellie (L-E). She spells it Elle. To me that looks like "L".

I guess Elli could be right too, SC, any input?
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Postby Rakis » 21 Apr 2009 11:16

She spells it Elle. To me that looks like "L".


That's want it means in french...Elle = she
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Re: Dune Pronunciation

Postby SandChigger » 21 Apr 2009 11:35

:lol: Cue Elvis?

Costello, not the fat "arse-bandit". :shock:

I'm with you, Freak, on the Elle being "wrong". (However French it may be. :P ) Elli would work, tho, why not? Even looks kinda modern-trendy, without the usual final "e". Hmmm....

Rakis wrote:How about Cheney...like Dick ? :lol:

That would make Cheney's got a gun! very dangerous.

But only if you're his friend. And out hunting birds with him. :P

SadisticCynic wrote:Couldn't Chani be pronounced as it is and spelt 'phonetically incorrect' (if that's what its called) because of the natural changes in spelling that occur over time? Or do those changes also incorporate changes to pronunciation? I'm just thinking of things like the change in English of wulf to wolf or Wilhelm to William (second one looks obvious in terms of pronunciation but I know little about Old English pronunciation).

Well, I guess that's a possibility. Another way of looking at is is that it's only spelled C-H-A-N-I in our alphabet as a convenience to the modern reader. The Fremen speak a form of Arabic (and know Chakobsa and Galach) and who knows how they would write her name (=using what letters and in what way).