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    The South Will Rise Again ....

    Postby SandRider » 29 Aug 2009 17:06

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    instead of cluttering up other threads with stuff
    only Freak & I are interested in, I'll just leave this here.


    ATTN:Freak
    September 4-6, 2009
    Battle of Atlanta **145th Anniversary Event**
    Location: Hampton, GA
    Site: Nash Farm Battlefield
    Phone: 877-206-4044
    URL: http://www.atlantacampaign.com
    Battles: Battle of Atlanta, Cheathams Hill, 2nd day of Jonesboro, Kilpatrick's Road. 97th Regimental String Band will play at the military ball Saturday night. Registration: $10/person until 5/1/09; $15/person until 8/1/09. $25 walk on fee. Artillery bounties do apply.


    registration fees apply to participating re-enactors -
    no idea about the public ....

    DO NOT take your wife to the Confederate Ball on Saturday night -
    she might possibly become enthralled with the dresses & Virginia Reel,
    and want to come along to other events - this must be avoided at all
    costs ....


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    Re: The South Will Rise Again ....

    Postby Freakzilla » 29 Aug 2009 19:10

    Cool! I grew up playing on Cheetham Hill National Battlefield. My parent's neigborhood butts against it.
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    Re: The South Will Rise Again ....

    Postby Freakzilla » 29 Aug 2009 19:16

    Umm... that's Dragon*Con. :(
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    Re: The South Will Rise Again ....

    Postby Eyes High » 29 Aug 2009 23:03

    It's been a long time since I've seen a re-enactment.

    Have fun to whom ever attends or participates in this one.
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    Re: The South Will Rise Again ....

    Postby Freakzilla » 30 Aug 2009 01:14

    As SR probably knows, Kennesaw Mt. National Battlefield is next to Cheetham Hill, where I grew up. They used to do re-enactments there every Sunday. We used to be able to set our clocks to the cannon fire at noon. From the original cannons, too! (I assume they were federal cannons since they were at the base of the mountain and the rebels were entrenched on top.) For some reason they stopped doing it, though. They have a very nice museum there which really impressed me as an eight-year-old and I've been a Civil War buff ever since.

    The Union troops never made it up the mountain and after several tries flanked it and moved on towards Atlanta. The rest is history...

    It's a beautifull park with trails even KJA could probably hike.
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    Re: The South Will Rise Again ....

    Postby E. LeGuille » 30 Aug 2009 01:29

    KJA + Civil War = Guns of the South, by Harry Turtledove

    Please. I read that and I just... wow.
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    Re: The South Will Rise Again ....

    Postby Freakzilla » 30 Aug 2009 01:33

    E. LeGuille wrote:KJA + Civil War = Guns of the South, by Harry Turtledove

    Please. I read that and I just... wow.


    But... I'm afraid. :(
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    Re: The South Will Rise Again ....

    Postby E. LeGuille » 30 Aug 2009 01:36

    Honestly. I liked the book's premise, and some of the ideas, but it was written so... I don't know how put it. Simple. It was a very simple, simple book. The Harback was probably triple-spaced to get the pagecount.
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    Re: The South Will Rise Again ....

    Postby Freakzilla » 30 Aug 2009 01:40

    E. LeGuille wrote:Honestly. I liked the book's premise, and some of the ideas, but it was written so... I don't know how put it. Simple. It was a very simple, simple book. The Harback was probably triple-spaced to get the pagecount.


    I've heard about that book! Thanks for the warning.

    Check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C.S.A.:_Th ... of_America

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    Re: The South Will Rise Again ....

    Postby E. LeGuille » 30 Aug 2009 01:49

    If the South had won the war, slavery would have ended due to pressure within the community to prevent war again, since they would have barely won. So, all of those who think it was about slavery -- it wasn't. It was about the Confederates having the right to inter-state commerce and price control, which the federal government jacked them over the coals with because of slavery.

    Lincoln brought about the slavery thing, since that was the biggest issue in the North that they had with the south.
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    Re: The South Will Rise Again ....

    Postby Freakzilla » 30 Aug 2009 01:51

    E. LeGuille wrote:If the South had won the war, slavery would have ended due to pressure within the community to prevent war again, since they would have barely won. So, all of those who think it was about slavery -- it wasn't. It was about the Confederates having the right to inter-state commerce and price control, which the federal government jacked them over the coals with because of slavery.

    Lincoln brought about the slavery thing, since that was the biggest issue in the North that they had with the south.


    I prefer not to argue this in mixed company (yankees).
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    Re: The South Will Rise Again ....

    Postby E. LeGuille » 30 Aug 2009 01:56

    I am mixed company. I am in the state that almost imploded when a southern government attempted to set up a militia inside of the State of Missouri. When the southern militia rose, Northern sympathizers chased down the rebels, and killed them. Over, and over.

    My state still is in a 50/50 North/South influence.
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    Re: The South Will Rise Again ....

    Postby SandRider » 30 Aug 2009 01:58

    that movie's fucking hilarious !!

    full of some real live bullshit, real simple-minded hate-on-whitey
    Spike Lee kinda bullshit, but some of it is brilliantly funny.

    what you really need to read is Howard Means,
    CSA: Confederate States of America
    1998, William Morrow ISBN 0-688-16187-1

    devolves into a bullshit murder mystery,
    but the set-up is excellent, a plausible scenario -

    in the bullshit movie above, the solution to "Confederate Reconstruction"
    is to make the North take slave, too.

    in this book, in the late 1870s it is clear to the CSA that slavery is
    unsustainable (as Lee & Jackson said), so the slaves are set free,
    and a totally segregated "separate but equal" society forms.

    like I said, real piss-poor writing as far it goes, you see all the plot
    "twists" & the final resolution coming from way off, but the only
    book I've read that dealt with the "South wins the War" theme
    realistically.

    BTW- my favorite scene from the movie is the mock-up 1940s
    movie "the Jefferson Davis Story" where the house negro (played
    by a famed British stage actor in blackface) says, in a British accent -

    "Scuse me, suh, but if'n you'd takes an idea from a no-account nigger like me ..."
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    Re: The South Will Rise Again ....

    Postby Freakzilla » 30 Aug 2009 02:01

    I thought it was a laugh riot too.

    Allthough Spike Lee isn't credited on the Wiki page, I KNOW I saw his name in the credits on IFC.
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    Re: The South Will Rise Again ....

    Postby E. LeGuille » 30 Aug 2009 02:07

    I'll have to check the movie out.
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    Re: The South Will Rise Again ....

    Postby Freakzilla » 30 Aug 2009 02:10

    E. LeGuille wrote:I'll have to check the movie out.


    Despite it's comical nature, it was fairly well done. I enjoyed it.
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    Re: The South Will Rise Again ....

    Postby SandRider » 30 Aug 2009 02:12

    E. LeGuille wrote:I am mixed company. I am in the state that almost imploded when a southern government attempted to set up a militia inside of the State of Missouri. When the southern militia rose, Northern sympathizers chased down the rebels, and killed them. Over, and over.



    that there is a real interesting analysis of history ...
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    Re: The South Will Rise Again ....

    Postby Freakzilla » 30 Aug 2009 02:16

    SandRider wrote:
    E. LeGuille wrote:I am mixed company. I am in the state that almost imploded when a southern government attempted to set up a militia inside of the State of Missouri. When the southern militia rose, Northern sympathizers chased down the rebels, and killed them. Over, and over.



    that there is a real interesting analysis of history ...


    I think too litle emphasis is put on the American Civil War in American History. As one living in the Deep South, I tell you these wounds are far from healed.

    Y'all laugh when I say there's another revolt coming...
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    Re: The South Will Rise Again ....

    Postby E. LeGuille » 30 Aug 2009 03:23

    Michael Savage said in a show this week,

    "The White Male. If you watch extreme fighting, you see a part of the White Male that has been suppressed for 30 years, but it's still there. It's there, and it's ugly. You want to see what the White Male, who still happens to be the majority in case your forgot, is capable of? Watch this extreme fighting. Why do you think we are so interested in this violence? Because it's apparent the White Male is angry. And don't doubt it, there' a rage that's waiting for a revolution. You think you can just push around the White Male, step on him, spit on him, throw him aside like scum? You're mistaken. There's an ugly side to the White Male, believe it."

    He has a point. There's a revolution brewing -- the validity of it, though, may be too short too soon, and discouraged. I don't know what I would do if there was another Civil War.
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    Re: The South Will Rise Again ....

    Postby Freakzilla » 30 Aug 2009 03:50

    E. LeGuille wrote:Michael Savage said in a show this week,

    "The White Male. If you watch extreme fighting, you see a part of the White Male that has been suppressed for 30 years, but it's still there. It's there, and it's ugly. You want to see what the White Male, who still happens to be the majority in case your forgot, is capable of? Watch this extreme fighting. Why do you think we are so interested in this violence? Because it's apparent the White Male is angry. And don't doubt it, there' a rage that's waiting for a revolution. You think you can just push around the White Male, step on him, spit on him, throw him aside like scum? You're mistaken. There's an ugly side to the White Male, believe it."

    He has a point. There's a revolution brewing -- the validity of it, though, may be too short too soon, and discouraged. I don't know what I would do if there was another Civil War.


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    Re: The South Will Rise Again ....

    Postby SadisticCynic » 30 Aug 2009 13:34

    Pick red or blue and hope your side wins.


    Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill?

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    Re: The South Will Rise Again ....

    Postby SandRider » 16 Feb 2010 01:15

    say, Freak -

    I'm about 90% sure I'm going to make the Chickamauga event this year -
    depends on if the 53rd Alabama boys will let me portray General Hannon or not -
    they take this event kinda serious, it's on the just-this-side-of-crazy-hardcore
    authentic, and long grey beards in the ranks just don't look right to them, even
    if Chick Creek was in 63 - besides, ain't no fucking way I'm humpin' it up and
    down them hills (who am I, adventure-harder Keith J. Anderhack ?) or sleeping
    on the rocks - I want a horse & a tent & negro servants ....

    anyway, the event is 17-19 September - I remember telling you about it last year -
    the ChickChatt park has got to be less than 100 miles from Atlanta - but you had
    tickets to that comic book thing & a hack to corner - I'll bet it's the same weekend
    again, too ....

    just a heads-up .... from the time you spend playing "Antietam", I'll bet a gold
    Confederate twenty-dollar piece you'd get hooked on playing in real-time ...


    //edit//
    should read my own threads - last year's DragonCon conflict was with the Battle of Atlanta event -
    I had been thinking about the Chick Creek event last year, too, and the year before ....

    97th Regimental String Band was at the Nash Farm event - those guys are too cool for school, as it were -
    we had them out here at all the Forts in December for all the Christmas parties & events - they're from
    Florida, do a show in uniforms from both sides, about as authentic & period-correct as it gets ....
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    Re: The South Will Rise Again ....

    Postby reverendmotherQ. » 16 Feb 2010 01:47

    SandRider wrote:say, Freak -

    I'm about 90% sure I'm going to make the Chickamauga event this year -
    depends on if the 53rd Alabama boys will let me portray General Hannon or not -
    they take this event kinda serious, it's on the just-this-side-of-crazy-hardcore
    authentic, and long grey beards in the ranks just don't look right to them, even
    if Chick Creek was in 63 - besides, ain't no fucking way I'm humpin' it up and
    down them hills (who am I, adventure-harder Keith J. Anderhack ?) or sleeping
    on the rocks - I want a horse & a tent & negro servants ....

    anyway, the event is 17-19 September - I remember telling you about it last year -
    the ChickChatt park has got to be less than 100 miles from Atlanta - but you had
    tickets to that comic book thing & a hack to corner - I'll bet it's the same weekend
    again, too ....

    just a heads-up .... from the time you spend playing "Antietam", I'll bet a gold
    Confederate twenty-dollar piece you'd get hooked on playing in real-time ...


    //edit//
    should read my own threads - last year's DragonCon conflict was with the Battle of Atlanta event -
    I had been thinking about the Chick Creek event last year, too, and the year before ....

    97th Regimental String Band was at the Nash Farm event - those guys are too cool for school, as it were -
    we had them out here at all the Forts in December for all the Christmas parties & events - they're from
    Florida, do a show in uniforms from both sides, about as authentic & period-correct as it gets ....


    Wow, and I thought no one took the south's history seriously. Maybe living in chattown isn't so underatted after all. Were not so far from Atlanta that dragoncon is a immigration of sorts but we are assualted by civl war reinactments all the time. :sigh: Maybe I'm just disgruntled by the fact I have been to a reinactment but not dragoncon yet.
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    Re: The South Will Rise Again ....

    Postby SandRider » 16 Feb 2010 02:15

    I don't like you anymore. :x
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    Re: The South Will Rise Again ....

    Postby SandChigger » 16 Feb 2010 04:08

    Ole Pah is SO fickle! :lol:

    Freakzilla wrote:Pick red or blue and hope your side wins.

    No, kiss your ass good-bye because both sides would lose when the vultures swept in. :P
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