Robspierre wrote: SandChigger wrote: Omphalos wrote: SandRider wrote: TheDukester wrote:
Put me down for a very firm
"fuck the quote-ziggaruts and all the retardation they represent" vote, please.
A Thing of Eternity wrote:
Omphalos wrote:Yyyyyyyyeaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Right. I'll put that on the list.
Twas kidding of course, good sir.
I certainly would hope this is the End of Bond, but I doubt it; like all Cash Cows, this one will wander
back into the barn eventually .... original books were some Silly Shit, but the movies took dat to a
hole 'nother lebel
... I've often despaired that The Money took to Fleming's Bond instead of
La Carre's Smiley; what a different world it would have been ....
Never say never. Personally I've seen a lot of discussion in the publishing and film/TV worlds lately about an increase in the use of spy/espionage motifs.
I've heard there's a lot more of it in scifi now, and even in fantasy and historical romance...
Been seeing it across genres for a bit now. I think it is even getting into the ripped bodice works.
I guess the point I was making was making was that pop culture sucked up Bond, the sex & violence,
gadgets, sex, and the violence, and left poor old George Smiley on the library shelf .... all of The Circus
books by La Carre are subtle, low-key, thought-provoking, beautiful, and historically accurate ... at the
very end of the "Hunt for Karla" trilogy, Smiley discovers a secret about the head of the opposing KGB
faction he's been butting heads with for years; Smiley subtlety threatens Karla with exposure, and the
final scene is George waiting in a coffee shop in West Berlin across from a checkpoint; a car clears
the gates from East Berlin, pulls up to the curb, and Karla gets out ... Smiley goes out and shakes
his hand, says he's "terribly sorry" about all this, and puts the KGB head into a sedan and drives
away .... it's Anti-Bond ...
I used to compare the Smiley/Bond thing with Dune/Star Wars .... one's the real deal and one's bullshit ....
thank God Spanky doesn't know anything about the British Secret Service ...