Tmothy Zahn vs Kevin J Anderson

Image
    Non-dune discussion

Moderators: ᴶᵛᵀᴬ, Omphalos, Freakzilla

User avatar
A Thing of Eternity
Posts: 6090
Joined: 08 Apr 2008 15:35
Location: Calgary Alberta

Re: Tmothy Zahn vs Kevin J Anderson

Postby A Thing of Eternity » 19 Jul 2010 13:33

For the record I totally agree, KJA messing with a pulp universe like SW isn't even close to the same level of despicableness that him messing with serious lit is.
Image

User avatar
TheDukester
Posts: 3808
Joined: 20 Jun 2008 13:44
Location: Operation Enduring Bacon
Contact:

Re: Tmothy Zahn vs Kevin J Anderson

Postby TheDukester » 19 Jul 2010 14:26

Also, to point to the glaringly obvious, Star Wars was a film franchise — the books came later. By definition, anything TheKeith fucked with was already "extended universe." So, while it's possible to sympathize with anti-Jacket SW fans (and I do sympathize), their pain is of a significantly lower degree than ours.
"Anything I write will be remembered and listed in bibliographies on Dune for several hundred years ..." — some delusional halfwit troll.

User avatar
Kojiro
Posts: 502
Joined: 09 Jul 2010 23:15
Location: Frank Herbert's Old Stomping Grounds
Contact:

Re: Tmothy Zahn vs Kevin J Anderson

Postby Kojiro » 19 Jul 2010 16:24

Just to add, the StarCraft EU fans hate him as well.

http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic. ... &view=next
Has not religion claimed a patent on creation for all of these millennia?
-The Tleilaxu Question,
from Muad'dib Speaks

User avatar
Nekhrun
Icelandic Wiener
Posts: 3290
Joined: 10 Feb 2008 16:27

Re: Tmothy Zahn vs Kevin J Anderson

Postby Nekhrun » 19 Jul 2010 16:35

Just to add, there isn't a franchise in which he's worked that does like him. He's universally hated except for his little nacnud followers who kiss his balls every time he takes a shit.
"If he was here to discuss Dune, he sure as hell picked a dumb way to do it." -Omphalos :character-cookiemonster:

Happy Memorial Day everyone! -James C. Harwood

"Three of my videos have over 100 views."
"Over 500 views for my 'Open Question' video." -Nebiros

User avatar
A Thing of Eternity
Posts: 6090
Joined: 08 Apr 2008 15:35
Location: Calgary Alberta

Re: Tmothy Zahn vs Kevin J Anderson

Postby A Thing of Eternity » 19 Jul 2010 16:48

We haven't heard anything from Batman or Superman fans yet have we? Those are both pretty popular franchises, there must be a good anti-KJA group hidden there somewhere...
Image

User avatar
Nekhrun
Icelandic Wiener
Posts: 3290
Joined: 10 Feb 2008 16:27

Re: Tmothy Zahn vs Kevin J Anderson

Postby Nekhrun » 19 Jul 2010 18:27

A Thing of Eternity wrote:We haven't heard anything from Batman or Superman fans yet have we? Those are both pretty popular franchises, there must be a good anti-KJA group hidden there somewhere...

I'm both and I hate that fucker.
"If he was here to discuss Dune, he sure as hell picked a dumb way to do it." -Omphalos :character-cookiemonster:

Happy Memorial Day everyone! -James C. Harwood

"Three of my videos have over 100 views."
"Over 500 views for my 'Open Question' video." -Nebiros

User avatar
SandRider
Watermaster
Posts: 6163
Joined: 05 Oct 2008 16:14
Location: In the back of your mind. Always.
Contact:

Re: Tmothy Zahn vs Kevin J Anderson

Postby SandRider » 19 Jul 2010 18:30

there's an "Everybody Hates Keith" thread around here somewhere ...
................ I exist only to amuse myself ................
ImageImage

I personally feel that this message board, Jacurutu, is full of hateful folks who don't know
how to fully interact with people.
~ "Spice Grandson" (Bryon Merrit) 08 June 2008

User avatar
Omphalos
Inglorious Bastard
Posts: 6634
Joined: 05 Feb 2008 11:07
Location: The Mighty Central Valley of California
Contact:

Re: Tmothy Zahn vs Kevin J Anderson

Postby Omphalos » 19 Jul 2010 18:45

Nekhrun wrote:
A Thing of Eternity wrote:We haven't heard anything from Batman or Superman fans yet have we? Those are both pretty popular franchises, there must be a good anti-KJA group hidden there somewhere...

I'm both and I hate that fucker.


It must feel like he's haunting you in particular. :twisted:

User avatar
TheDukester
Posts: 3808
Joined: 20 Jun 2008 13:44
Location: Operation Enduring Bacon
Contact:

Re: Tmothy Zahn vs Kevin J Anderson

Postby TheDukester » 19 Jul 2010 18:58

There was a guy who ran a Superman site who hated Anderhack's Krypton book and wrote a pretty funny review of it.

It's a case of "shoulda bookmarked it" because now I can't find it anywhere.
"Anything I write will be remembered and listed in bibliographies on Dune for several hundred years ..." — some delusional halfwit troll.

User avatar
Nekhrun
Icelandic Wiener
Posts: 3290
Joined: 10 Feb 2008 16:27

Re: Tmothy Zahn vs Kevin J Anderson

Postby Nekhrun » 19 Jul 2010 19:05

Omphalos wrote:
Nekhrun wrote:
A Thing of Eternity wrote:We haven't heard anything from Batman or Superman fans yet have we? Those are both pretty popular franchises, there must be a good anti-KJA group hidden there somewhere...

I'm both and I hate that fucker.


It must feel like he's haunting you in particular. :twisted:

Not only that, but 11 years ago I joined a Star Wars forum and we trashed the shit out of him there. When I heard that he was going to be writing Dune books I was devastated.

The good thing is that, because of my kja exposure, I think I've saved hundreds of high schoolers the trouble of reading his books. I guess I'm kind of like Jesus, Santa and Alvis all rolled into one.
"If he was here to discuss Dune, he sure as hell picked a dumb way to do it." -Omphalos :character-cookiemonster:

Happy Memorial Day everyone! -James C. Harwood

"Three of my videos have over 100 views."
"Over 500 views for my 'Open Question' video." -Nebiros

User avatar
SandChigger
KJASF Ground Zero
Posts: 14490
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 22:29
Location: "Whatcha having, shoog? Hurry up and order now, I ain't got all day!"
Contact:

Re: Tmothy Zahn vs Kevin J Anderson

Postby SandChigger » 19 Jul 2010 20:08

So actually... YOU're the long-term obsessed hater! 11 years?! I've only been doing this, what, four years tops?

You ARE the Kwintessential Haterofhack! :shock:
I have heard of only one mistake that doesn’t have an explanation for a careful reader...with an open mind. (And, no, I’m not going to tell you what it is!) —KJA

I don't like every writer's style; for instance, I have never been able to get through Ursula LeGuin, China Mieville, or Iain Banks, all of whom are critical darlings. —KJA

I...had written a bunch of Star Wars and X-Files books...that proved not just that I'm a hack, but that I could write in somebody else's universe... —KJA

User avatar
Serkanner
Posts: 2831
Joined: 17 Feb 2008 18:44
Location: Den Haag - The Netherlands

Re: Tmothy Zahn vs Kevin J Anderson

Postby Serkanner » 20 Jul 2010 05:19

Nekhrun wrote:Just to add, there isn't a franchise in which he's worked that does like him. He's universally hated except for his little nacnud followers who kiss his balls every time he takes a shit.


Weirdness ... nacnud spelled backwords is Duncan. :!:
"... the mystery of life isn't a problem to solve but a reality to experience."

“There is no escape—we pay for the violence of our ancestors.”

Sandrider: "Keith went to Bobo's for a weekend of drinking, watched some DVDs,
and wrote a Dune Novel."

User avatar
SandChigger
KJASF Ground Zero
Posts: 14490
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 22:29
Location: "Whatcha having, shoog? Hurry up and order now, I ain't got all day!"
Contact:

Re: Tmothy Zahn vs Kevin J Anderson

Postby SandChigger » 20 Jul 2010 06:25

Yeah, isn't that weird?

Dune-era Galach is a strange language. ;)

User avatar
Hunchback Jack
Posts: 1982
Joined: 30 May 2008 15:02
Location: California, USA

Re: Tmothy Zahn vs Kevin J Anderson

Postby Hunchback Jack » 28 Jul 2010 16:41

Kojiro wrote:
Haddonfield, NJ: Second Question - I've noticed similarities between your Sword of Truth series and Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series...(Black Sisterhood vs. Black Ajah; The Order vs. The Seanchan; Richard vs. Rand both discovering their powers, both have Nameless evil Gods...etc.) I've often voiced my suspicion that these two series might be occurring on the same world...how crazy am I?

Terry Goodkind: If you notice a similarity, then you probably aren't old enough to read my books.


I probably hate that guy almost as much as I hate KJA....


Goodkind's most recent novel went from hardcover to remainder bin in *three months*.

HBJ
"The sky calls to us. If we do not destroy ourselves, we will one day venture to the stars."
- Carl Sagan

I'm still very proud of The Quarry but … let's face it; in the end the real best way to sign off would have been with a great big rollicking Culture novel.
- Iain Banks

User avatar
A Thing of Eternity
Posts: 6090
Joined: 08 Apr 2008 15:35
Location: Calgary Alberta

Re: Tmothy Zahn vs Kevin J Anderson

Postby A Thing of Eternity » 28 Jul 2010 16:43

Hunchback Jack wrote:
Kojiro wrote:
Haddonfield, NJ: Second Question - I've noticed similarities between your Sword of Truth series and Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series...(Black Sisterhood vs. Black Ajah; The Order vs. The Seanchan; Richard vs. Rand both discovering their powers, both have Nameless evil Gods...etc.) I've often voiced my suspicion that these two series might be occurring on the same world...how crazy am I?

Terry Goodkind: If you notice a similarity, then you probably aren't old enough to read my books.


I probably hate that guy almost as much as I hate KJA....


Goodkind's most recent novel went from hardcover to remainder bin in *three months*.

HBJ


Good. He was probably my favourite author for a bit when I was younger, but his books went downhill fast (didn't start all that perfect either) and he is one of the most condescending arrogant people on the planet. His ego makes KJA look like a buddhist monk.
Image

User avatar
Robspierre
Posts: 2160
Joined: 19 Feb 2008 10:49
Location: Cascadia

Re: Tmothy Zahn vs Kevin J Anderson

Postby Robspierre » 28 Jul 2010 21:18

Don't invoke the Tairy*! If he here's you calling his name he will unleash the awesme power of Ayn Rand upon you!


Rob

*Tairy is what Goodkind his know on the many, many, many, message board threads devoted to describing just how shit his books are.

User avatar
Omphalos
Inglorious Bastard
Posts: 6634
Joined: 05 Feb 2008 11:07
Location: The Mighty Central Valley of California
Contact:

Re: Tmothy Zahn vs Kevin J Anderson

Postby Omphalos » 28 Jul 2010 23:17

Robspierre wrote:Don't invoke the Tairy*! If he here's you calling his name he will unleash the awesme power of Ayn Rand upon you!


Rob

*Tairy is what Goodkind his know on the many, many, many, message board threads devoted to describing just how shit his books are.


Are you drunk?

User avatar
merkin muffley
Posts: 1584
Joined: 23 Apr 2010 15:18
Location: War Room

Re: Tmothy Zahn vs Kevin J Anderson

Postby merkin muffley » 28 Jul 2010 23:29

:lol: :clap:
"I must admit, you have an astonishingly good idea there, Doctor...."

User avatar
SandChigger
KJASF Ground Zero
Posts: 14490
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 22:29
Location: "Whatcha having, shoog? Hurry up and order now, I ain't got all day!"
Contact:

Re: Tmothy Zahn vs Kevin J Anderson

Postby SandChigger » 28 Jul 2010 23:57

Omphalos wrote:Are you drunk?

This is why pretty men swoon and brave women skedaddle when The Tidwell walks in.

BECAUSE HE ASKS THE QUESTIONS THE REST OF US ARE TOO POLITE TO.

:laughing-rolling:

User avatar
Omphalos
Inglorious Bastard
Posts: 6634
Joined: 05 Feb 2008 11:07
Location: The Mighty Central Valley of California
Contact:

Re: Tmothy Zahn vs Kevin J Anderson

Postby Omphalos » 29 Jul 2010 00:01

I'm just askin' cause I'm fixin' to join him; the Mouse just got home with a shit load of limes and a bottle of tonic water.

User avatar
SandChigger
KJASF Ground Zero
Posts: 14490
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 22:29
Location: "Whatcha having, shoog? Hurry up and order now, I ain't got all day!"
Contact:

Re: Tmothy Zahn vs Kevin J Anderson

Postby SandChigger » 29 Jul 2010 00:32

Mmmm...limes! I'm making caipirinhas at that party I'm going to Saturday night. :dance:

User avatar
Hunchback Jack
Posts: 1982
Joined: 30 May 2008 15:02
Location: California, USA

Re: Tmothy Zahn vs Kevin J Anderson

Postby Hunchback Jack » 29 Jul 2010 01:49

Omphalos wrote:I'm just askin' cause I'm fixin' to join him; the Mouse just got home with a shit load of limes and a bottle of tonic water.


Would that be for a gin and tonic? Pass one over, if so, 'cos I'm mighty parched, and mighty partial.

HBJ
"The sky calls to us. If we do not destroy ourselves, we will one day venture to the stars."
- Carl Sagan

I'm still very proud of The Quarry but … let's face it; in the end the real best way to sign off would have been with a great big rollicking Culture novel.
- Iain Banks

User avatar
Robspierre
Posts: 2160
Joined: 19 Feb 2008 10:49
Location: Cascadia

Re: Tmothy Zahn vs Kevin J Anderson

Postby Robspierre » 29 Jul 2010 02:16

Omphalos wrote:
Robspierre wrote:Don't invoke the Tairy*! If he here's you calling his name he will unleash the awesme power of Ayn Rand upon you!


Rob

*Tairy is what Goodkind his know on the many, many, many, message board threads devoted to describing just how shit his books are.


Are you drunk?



Getting there :obscene-drinkingcheers: :obscene-drinkingchug: :obscene-drinkingdrunk: :orcs-cheers:


Goodkind's shit writing getting ripped by people:

http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/43118-goodkind-xlvii/



Rob

User avatar
SandChigger
KJASF Ground Zero
Posts: 14490
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 22:29
Location: "Whatcha having, shoog? Hurry up and order now, I ain't got all day!"
Contact:

Re: Tmothy Zahn vs Kevin J Anderson

Postby SandChigger » 29 Jul 2010 13:37

Great link, Rob! :lol:

Sounds like he might even be a bigger dick than Anderson. (Is that possible? :shifty: )
I have heard of only one mistake that doesn’t have an explanation for a careful reader...with an open mind. (And, no, I’m not going to tell you what it is!) —KJA

I don't like every writer's style; for instance, I have never been able to get through Ursula LeGuin, China Mieville, or Iain Banks, all of whom are critical darlings. —KJA

I...had written a bunch of Star Wars and X-Files books...that proved not just that I'm a hack, but that I could write in somebody else's universe... —KJA

User avatar
Omphalos
Inglorious Bastard
Posts: 6634
Joined: 05 Feb 2008 11:07
Location: The Mighty Central Valley of California
Contact:

Re: Tmothy Zahn vs Kevin J Anderson

Postby Omphalos » 29 Jul 2010 14:10

Hunchback Jack wrote:
Omphalos wrote:I'm just askin' cause I'm fixin' to join him; the Mouse just got home with a shit load of limes and a bottle of tonic water.


Would that be for a gin and tonic? Pass one over, if so, 'cos I'm mighty parched, and mighty partial.

HBJ


Aye. Alas, the gin died last night. Watched There Will Be Blood and put the rest of it away.


Return to “˲”