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    Re: Promethius

    Postby Jodorowsky's Acolyte » 27 Sep 2012 00:01

    Good points, Naive Mind. I think that Ridley Scott's biggest problem lately is that he's lost perspective in how his ideas (which he thinks are brilliant) would be perceived by the audience. His last good movies of the 2000s, in my opinion, are Gladiator and Kingdom of Heaven. Both films had their problems, but they conveyed Scott's ideas than his recent work. Robin Hood, for example, does a good job in immersing itself into gritty medieval London, but it pays so little attention to the Robin Hood story itself, and it comes across more as a confusingly delivered convoluted origin story. Prometheus comes across to me as a confusingly delivered attempt at retelling Lovecraft's much more brilliant horror/sci-fi. His characters are kind of dumb, and waste their time with questions about why the aliens created them, why do they want to kill them, why did the aliens have to die before they could talk to them, instead of asking: if the aliens who created us were killed, what the hell killed them?

    I've noticed that Christopher Nolan or Scott, while they are both brilliant directors, are caught up in the brilliance of their ideas, but are kind of oblivious to how they come across on screen. Since they've been working with the Hollywood system for years, I think they are out of touch with the reality of how the audience would perceive their work. They're are in dire need of someone from the outside who could guide them to better deliver their story ideas logically and effectively.
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    Re: Promethius

    Postby Eyes High » 27 Sep 2012 16:11

    Lawliet wrote:
    SandChigger wrote:It's another one of those "I really enjoyed it while I was watching it, but the aftertaste is like old socks" flicks.

    Nice in an eye-candy way, but some of the stuff just doesn't hang together.

    I'll still see any sequels, of course. ;)


    I think that´s called "the Avatar effect".

    Avatar was better. ;-)
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    Re: Promethius

    Postby DuneFishUK » 28 Sep 2012 12:31

    Eyes High wrote:
    Lawliet wrote:
    SandChigger wrote:It's another one of those "I really enjoyed it while I was watching it, but the aftertaste is like old socks" flicks.

    Nice in an eye-candy way, but some of the stuff just doesn't hang together.

    I'll still see any sequels, of course. ;)


    I think that´s called "the Avatar effect".

    Avatar was better. ;-)

    Avatar knew what it was. Whatever anyone thought of it, it was a simple stupid pulp scifi story that followed the formula to the letter. The predicted payoff (who would have guessed he would ride the big beasty, vanquish the baddies and get the girl?) came and all was good in the world.

    Prometheus was totally different in that it set out to be a mysterious twisty-turny horror. It asked a lot of questions (which in itself isn't a bad thing) but doesn't do it very well, maybe when we get a chance to watch Prometheus and Prometheus 2 back to back it will make more sense.

    Probably it's more like the Star Trek (2009) effect. Best film to watch, worst film to think about.
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    Re: Promethius

    Postby Eyes High » 28 Sep 2012 13:19

    DuneFishUK wrote:....

    Probably it's more like the Star Trek (2009) effect. Best film to watch, worst film to think about.


    :lol: :clap: I like that. I'll have to remember that.
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    Re: Promethius

    Postby tenfingersofdoom » 06 Oct 2012 23:00

    Ridley scott needs to edit his own movies, the theatrical versions of kingdom of heaven and robin hood were full of plot holes that made the directors cut versions that much better. I hope prometheus gets the same treatment later on, but i really dont want to wait too long.
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    Re: Promethius

    Postby Lawliet » 14 Oct 2012 13:09

    Ok, i watched the movie a couple days ago. It wasn´t too good, i was entertained for most of the movie, but the last 30 minutes were the worst ones. With Ridley Scott i always find myself waiting for a final climax that never happens.
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    Re: Promethius

    Postby Freakzilla » 06 Nov 2012 18:28

    I liked it.
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