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The Romans and their legacy.

Postby Visigoth » 05 Feb 2012 12:33

Why does the World inhabitants still use Roman numbers?

Why does most of the World still practice Roman Religion?

Why does most of the World use a Roman form of government?

Why did the Germanic Tribes adopted the Roman way of life? Image
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Re: The Romans and their legacy.

Postby Freakzilla » 05 Feb 2012 12:47

Because it lasted 2000 years? They obviously did a few things right.
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Re: The Romans and their legacy.

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Re: The Romans and their legacy.

Postby Apjak » 05 Feb 2012 13:13

I don't know about you, but I almost always use Hindu-Arabic numerals instead of Roman ones.
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Re: The Romans and their legacy.

Postby Freakzilla » 05 Feb 2012 13:16

I have roman numerals in my name.

Funny story, my son does too. A friend of mine asked him if he new about Roman numerals and he said, "Sure, we've got some in the pantry."

He then showed him the ramen noodles.

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Re: The Romans and their legacy.

Postby Visigoth » 05 Feb 2012 13:22

Freakzilla wrote:Because it lasted 2000 years? They obviously did a few things right.



I do not know if it lasted 2000 years, but I think one of the things that made the Romans succesful for such a long time was that after they conquered a people, said people could eventually become Romans, even if they were of the Negroid race. I'm particularly fond of the Roman Legions formed by a certain conquered Germanic tribe that ended up sacking Rome and therefore won its independence and gained a territory for themselves called the Iberian Peninsule. Ironically, these Goths became the defenders of the faith. Wasn't the Inquisition great? They took care of the Jews and particularly relevant today, the Moslems. They had the perfect model to deal with these heretics. Viva España! :violence-axechase:
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Re: The Romans and their legacy.

Postby Visigoth » 05 Feb 2012 13:24

Apjak wrote:I don't know about you, but I almost always use Hindu-Arabic numerals instead of Roman ones.

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Re: The Romans and their legacy.

Postby Visigoth » 05 Feb 2012 13:26

JustSomeGuy wrote:Beat me to it.


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Re: The Romans and their legacy.

Postby Freakzilla » 05 Feb 2012 13:38

Visigoth wrote:
Freakzilla wrote:Because it lasted 2000 years? They obviously did a few things right.



I do not know if it lasted 2000 years, but I think one of the things that made the Romans succesful for such a long time...


...if the traditional date for the founding of Rome is accepted as fact, the Roman state can be said to have lasted in some form from 753 BC to the fall in 1461 of the Empire of Trebizond (a successor state and fragment of the Byzantine Empire which escaped conquest by the Ottomans in 1453), for a total of 2,214 years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Empire#Legacy

...was that after they conquered a people, said people could eventually become Romans, even if they were of the Negroid race.


So I guess that rules out the Egyptians and the Turks. :roll:

...I'm particularly fond of the Roman Legions formed by a certain conquered Germanic tribe that ended up sacking Rome and therefore won its independence and gained a territory for themselves called the Iberian Peninsule. Ironically, these Goths became the defenders of the faith.


How does your personal fondness have bearing on this?

Wasn't the Inquisition great?


Great in brutal violence. Otherwise, no.

They took care of the Jews and particularly relevant today, the Moslems. They had the perfect model to deal with these heretics. Viva España! :violence-axechase:


I don't think I like where this is going... :x
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Re: The Romans and their legacy.

Postby Visigoth » 05 Feb 2012 14:11

I would like to share this document which, one of the things it decreed, was the right of women to own property. This is one of the earliest, if not the first document that gave a woman the right to own property. :clap:

http://libro.uca.edu/vcode/visigoths.htm
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Re: The Romans and their legacy.

Postby Visigoth » 05 Feb 2012 14:30

The Visigothic Code is what I'm fond of and proud that this document was written. Also, during the Inquisition the Jews were given a week to leave Spain, or they had to convert. The Moslems were not given this opportunity; they were beheaded. You have to admit that there was compassion for the people of the Book. I'm not fond of the Inquisition, but it was an efficient way to get rid of the "enemy". War is Hell! Didn't we went after Bin Laden and killed others in the name of "Justice"? Aren't we proud that we got "Him" and do not think about all of the collateral damage we have incurred? Do we even think about all the innocent people we have killed in the name of Justice? No! We just want the results and toast because we are safer in our country now that He's dead. It was the same in 1492.

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Re: The Romans and their legacy.

Postby SandChigger » 05 Feb 2012 14:32

Freakzilla wrote:I don't think I like where this is going...


Nope. Not headed to a good place at all... :roll:

I don't mind women owning property, but letting them drive was a decidedly bad idea... :doh:


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Postby Freakzilla » 05 Feb 2012 14:34

I'm proud of the Job our Navy SEALS did in killing Bin Laden, but not because he was a Muslim.
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Re: The Romans and their legacy.

Postby SandChigger » 05 Feb 2012 14:38

There's nothing here to be particularly proud of:

History of the Jews in Spain: Visigoth rule (from Wikipedia)

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Re: The Romans and their legacy.

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Re: The Romans and their legacy.

Postby Visigoth » 05 Feb 2012 17:01

SandChigger wrote:There's nothing here to be particularly proud of:

History of the Jews in Spain: Visigoth rule (from Wikipedia)


Great link!

Spain did not started it.


As tragic as this event was for the history of both Spain and the Jews, it must be pointed out that it occurred within a well established trend in European history. From the 13th to the 16th centuries, many European countries expelled the Jews from their territory in at least 15 occasions with Spain being in the middle of that sequence, having been preceded by England, France and Germany (from Wikipedia)
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Re: The Romans and their legacy.

Postby Freakzilla » 05 Feb 2012 17:03

So, that makes it OK? Everyone else was doing it?
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Re: The Romans and their legacy.

Postby Visigoth » 05 Feb 2012 17:29

Freakzilla wrote:So, that makes it OK? Everyone else was doing it?


Please....I never said it was a good thing. It was efficient and very thorough.

It is interesting and ironic to me that these Visigoths were Aryans first, and then they adopted Roman Catholicism. First they hate the Romans, then they adopt the Romans way of life and become a very austere Defender of the Faith. I just think it is :crazy:

Somehow these guys became a military force to be reckon with because they went unbeaten until Fracis Drake's Navy took credit for defeating the Spanish Armada due to a storm at sea. The Spanish success in ruling the world at that time, I think, it had to do with a moving formation of soldiers (on land) called six...something. I mean Charles V and his predecessors ruled the World. The success the Spanish military acquired opened the door to the discovery of the New World. Remember, these Spaniards were the descendants of the Visigoths which were a Romanized Germanic (barbarian) Tribe that were Roman Legion trained in the art of war. Obviously, they were very keen and ended up sacking Rome and winning Iberia for themselves. Image
Sack of Rome by the Visigoths on 24 August 410

After a while, IMOHO, God (The Most High) took it away from the Spanish and gave it to the English. Call it delusional on my part, but that's what I believe. :wink:

It is ironic, just like an Atheist sending their kid to catholic school.


Was it right to drop two atomic bombs in Japan? Compared to the Inquisition...yet we celebrate and justify our actions against the Japanese.
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Yes we do. Ironically, the Japanese adopted some American ways. I wonder if the Japanese hold a grudge?

Was America right or wrong to have dropped two atomic bombs on innocent civilians?? Honestly? Do we even think about the atomic bombs when we celebrate our victory over Japan? I do not think so; I don't. We think about how righteous we are and that it had to be done. The descendants of the Visigoths, the Spaniards, thought the same thing; it was the right thing to do.
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We are bias in our beliefs because it suits us just fine. ...not because he was a Moslem. Because he (Bin Laden) was a bad man. Why didn't Bush find him? Because Bush was, and still is, in businnes with the Bin Ladens which are safely tucked away from the U.S. Mr. Bush made sure of that. Both of them, the father and George W.

The Saudis hate us, yet they adopt our ways. We know this, yet we do business and protect them from themselves, and they take, no, we give them our money. Are we adopting their ways? Are we the next to be conquered? Are we going to adopt their ways? Food for thought.
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Re: The Romans and their legacy.

Postby Serkanner » 05 Feb 2012 17:32

You need to go back to history class.
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Re: The Romans and their legacy.

Postby JustSomeGuy » 05 Feb 2012 18:00

Visigoth wrote:Didn't we went after Bin Laden and killed others in the name of "Justice"? Aren't we proud that we got "Him" and do not think about all of the collateral damage we have incurred? Do we even think about all the innocent people we have killed in the name of Justice? No! We just want the results and toast because we are safer in our country now that He's dead. It was the same in 1492.


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Re: The Romans and their legacy.

Postby Robspierre » 05 Feb 2012 18:50

Just admit you cannot read Roman Numerals for this years Super Bowl.

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Re: The Romans and their legacy.

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Visigoth wrote:
Freakzilla wrote:So, that makes it OK? Everyone else was doing it?


Please....I never said it was a good thing. It was efficient and very thorough.


That would describe Nazi concentration camps, too.
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Robspierre wrote:Just admit you cannot read Roman Numerals for this years Super Bowl.

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Postby Freakzilla » 05 Feb 2012 18:57

Visigoth wrote:Was America right or wrong to have dropped two atomic bombs on innocent civilians?? Honestly? Do we even think about the atomic bombs when we celebrate our victory over Japan? I do not think so; I don't. We think about how righteous we are and that it had to be done. The descendants of the Visigoths, the Spaniards, thought the same thing; it was the right thing to do.
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