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Inside the Genius, 14evin

Postby D Pope » 14 Feb 2012 21:03

Origins of a Saga
kevin looks for inspiration at the local bookstore
"I watched several other writers being tremendously successful with what we lovingly call big fat fantasy novels."

he catches the scent of an idea
"Well I like SF more that fantasy so why is no author writing a giant continuing science fiction series?"

now he's rolling, but can he do it?
"In truth, I was actually doing that anyway. The Dune books I write with Brian Herbert happen to be a very long epic SF series."
" But I started wondering what I would like to do as a large continuing SF story."

got his idea! he's going to grab some-o-dat success with a big fat SF novel.
just gotta fill in some details;
"I'd already had an idea that I thought was too good to use in a Star Wars novel. Remember Cloud City?"
"I saw the gigantic Mothership from Close Encounters of the Third Kind coming up out of the clouds and attacking Cloud City."

the result was called 7 suns
"My work on the Seven Suns series is like my own love letter to science fiction. I've always loved SF and I threw in everything, from the giant nasty robots that are Gort in The Day The Earth Stood Still, to alien ruins on empty planets, to the dying and decadent aliens from a different race to the space gypsies and weird planets to the strange religions and star-crossed lovers and good guys and bad guys and really nasty aliens who live in gas giant planets. Everything that I love about SF is in some form in these books."
"I hate books where there's nothing going on."

with that in mind, wanna say something out of context that I can use as ammo against your writing Dune?
"You need to have characters who are conveniently in the spot to see the interesting things happen rather than have one character who couldn't possibly see everything because then I would have to do things off stage. Readers are like voyeurs, they want to see everything happening. They don't want to be told that a great massacre occurred that wiped out an alien race. They want someone who's actually there."

Bringing the nuDune for more than a decade! Remember, he's published and you're not!

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Leto II is gone for good, except for OM. The "pearl" was just that; a miniscule portion of what Leto was, and not a compressed version of the whole. The pearl that the worms have do not make them Leto, or in any way similar to him.
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Re: Inside the Genius, 14evin

Postby JustSomeGuy » 14 Feb 2012 22:08

Oh, wow, I thought you had just made all of that up until I clicked on the link. Those were really his words! :lol:
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Re: Inside the Genius, 14evin

Postby Ampoliros » 15 Feb 2012 00:58

Oh yeah it was totally obvious some asshat named KJA had been rubbing off to the Martin books. It was all over Sisterhood.
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Re: Inside the Genius, 14evin

Postby D Pope » 15 Feb 2012 04:17

Just Some Guy wrote:Oh, wow, I thought you had just made all of that up until I clicked on the link. Those were really his words!

He's a genius, there's no way i'd ever have thought of this stuff.

SN: What are the challenges and rewards of working with media titles or someone else's property?

Anderson: Working with the media tie-ins, there's a whole bunch of rewards. They sell a lot better than a lot of my original things.

We get a very broad readership. We get lots of families' and younger readers' responses that say, "I never liked to read until I read these books,"

and they realize that picking up a book and sitting down can actually be a fun afternoon or a cool way to entertain yourself.

We've got letters from kids who learned to read from our books. To me, that's a great reward.


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Re: Inside the Genius, 14evin

Postby D Pope » 15 Feb 2012 04:36

On E & A, kevie wrote:...Batman, is modeling himself after James Bond.

And the character comes right out and admits that in the novel, even to the point of drinking a faux Vesper which he has to tell people how to make.

That seemed like the perfect thing to do, because Casino Royale, the novel, had just come out in this time period.

http://www.the-trades.com/article.php?id=11077
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Re: Inside the Genius, 14evin

Postby Lundse » 15 Feb 2012 06:03

My absolute favourites: :-)

...and I threw in everything...


We could tell, Kevin, we really could tell that was your approach!

Readers are like voyeurs, they want to see everything happening.


A bit of an overreaching conclusion - lets say some readers are like that, ok?

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Re: Inside the Genius, 14evin

Postby lotek » 15 Feb 2012 08:18

a guy tooting his own horn wrote:We've got letters from kids who learned to read from our books. To me, that's a great reward.


To me, that reminds me of this.
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Re: Inside the Genius, 14evin

Postby D Pope » 15 Feb 2012 15:16

In this next, very special edition of Inside the Genius, i'd like to try something a little different.
See if you can guess what books he's talking about from the following quotes.
14evin wrote:1) We've got thirty-nine reviews on Amazon already from people who've gotten pre-release copies, and we've got a four-star rating so far. I've gotten a lot of fan mail from the people who read it ahead of time, and a lot of buzz from the reviews.

years before, he wrote:2) "I have such a blast writing this series because I can cover a canvas the size of the whole galaxy.”

and again he wrote:3) These are very large stories and very difficult to write, especially with the quality and the expectations involved.
Leto II is gone for good, except for OM. The "pearl" was just that; a miniscule portion of what Leto was, and not a compressed version of the whole. The pearl that the worms have do not make them Leto, or in any way similar to him.
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Re: Inside the Genius, 14evin

Postby JustSomeGuy » 15 Feb 2012 15:50

D Pope wrote:In this next, very special edition of Inside the Genius, i'd like to try something a little different.
See if you can guess what books he's talking about from the following quotes.

14evin wrote:1) We've got thirty-nine reviews on Amazon already from people who've gotten pre-release copies, and we've got a four-star rating so far. I've gotten a lot of fan mail from the people who read it ahead of time, and a lot of buzz from the reviews.

years before, he wrote:2) "I have such a blast writing this series because I can cover a canvas the size of the whole galaxy.”

and again he wrote:3) These are very large stories and very difficult to write, especially with the quality and the expectations involved.



1) Hellhole?
2) He talked about "a canvas the size of the whole galaxy," so I'll guess that he's talking about his saga books.
3) McDune? "very difficult to write, especially with the quality and the expectations involved"
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Re: Inside the Genius, 14evin

Postby D Pope » 15 Feb 2012 17:06

Two out of three!
Leto II is gone for good, except for OM. The "pearl" was just that; a miniscule portion of what Leto was, and not a compressed version of the whole. The pearl that the worms have do not make them Leto, or in any way similar to him.
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Re: Inside the Genius, 14evin

Postby D Pope » 28 Feb 2012 21:45

Alien ships filled the skies of Earth, like snowflakes in a menacing blizzard. With extended solar sails, weapons antennae, sparkling windowports, and anodized hull plates, the warliners looked like a school of fearsome fighting fish.

“We always knew the Ildiran Solar Navy would come,” muttered Malcolm Stannis, Chairman of the Terran Hanseatic League. He stared up into the sky from a high balcony in the Whisper Palace. “But I never expected anything like this.”

Thus begins his own prequel... I mean it, he really sold this shit to someone... more than once... and just in case you can't follow this- he's including a "graphic novel!"
so continues his 'love letter to scifi'
good for him, I guess. I can't help but wonder if he's noticed that no one complains about his own shit like they do when he goes in anothers sandbox.

It was a dark and stormy night, like an evening that's stormy and dark.

I know it's nit picking- BUT- y'all know that anodizing metal only keeps galvanic action from corroding structures. It does this by providing an anodic material to be sacrificed if you should find yourself in an alkaline environment. It's not that I necessarily have a problem with anodizing the hull of a spaceship, it's just that there are better ways now, no one does this on aircraft any more.
Leto II is gone for good, except for OM. The "pearl" was just that; a miniscule portion of what Leto was, and not a compressed version of the whole. The pearl that the worms have do not make them Leto, or in any way similar to him.
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Re: Inside the Genius, 14evin

Postby SandChigger » 29 Feb 2012 08:36

Not to mention that solar sails would be useless in planetary orbit.

Gods that's shit. :doh:
I have heard of only one mistake that doesn’t have an explanation for a careful reader...with an open mind. (And, no, I’m not going to tell you what it is!) —KJA

I don't like every writer's style; for instance, I have never been able to get through Ursula LeGuin, China Mieville, or Iain Banks, all of whom are critical darlings. —KJA

I...had written a bunch of Star Wars and X-Files books...that proved not just that I'm a hack, but that I could write in somebody else's universe... —KJA

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Re: Inside the Genius, 14evin

Postby D Pope » 29 Feb 2012 09:50

Not just useless, self destructive! I wonder what 14evin was watching when this idea came to him.
Leto II is gone for good, except for OM. The "pearl" was just that; a miniscule portion of what Leto was, and not a compressed version of the whole. The pearl that the worms have do not make them Leto, or in any way similar to him.
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Re: Inside the Genius, 14evin

Postby Hunchback Jack » 29 Feb 2012 21:32

Alien ships filled the skies of Earth, like snowflakes in a menacing blizzard.


C'mon, D, you made that up, right?

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Re: Inside the Genius, 14evin

Postby D Pope » 29 Feb 2012 22:59

Hunchback Jack wrote:
Alien ships filled the skies of Earth, like snowflakes in a menacing blizzard.


C'mon, D, you made that up, right?

HBJ


http://kjablog.com/?p=2651

I'm no master of universes.
I'll admit that the graphic novel being for those who find the 'chapter book' too challenging was my spin.
Tripped over this while looking for more insight into the genius that is kieth.
Leto II is gone for good, except for OM. The "pearl" was just that; a miniscule portion of what Leto was, and not a compressed version of the whole. The pearl that the worms have do not make them Leto, or in any way similar to him.
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Re: Inside the Genius, 14evin

Postby lotek » 01 Mar 2012 07:43

SandChigger wrote:Not to mention that solar sails would be useless in planetary orbit.

Gods that's shit. :doh:


hey do you have a degree in astrophysics ?
Well keith does !
(or did he just watch the documentary channel and fall asleep with his hand down his pants when the first three syllables word was pronounced ? I forget)
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Re: Inside the Genius, 14evin

Postby SandChigger » 02 Mar 2012 12:05

Dude, my anal sphincter knows more about asstrophysics than KJA's hole body.

;) :lol:
I have heard of only one mistake that doesn’t have an explanation for a careful reader...with an open mind. (And, no, I’m not going to tell you what it is!) —KJA

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Re: Inside the Genius, 14evin

Postby Ampoliros » 02 Mar 2012 13:00

Yeah well with his understanding of space travel I think he squeaked by with a bunch of c's.

Faster than light rockets and railways in space? Radio signals crossing an entire galaxy, let alone a universe in 10,000 years? I don't have a BA in astrophysics, and I know that doesn't work.
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Re: Inside the Genius, 14evin

Postby lotek » 02 Mar 2012 13:22

SandChigger wrote:Dude, my anal sphincter knows more about asstrophysics than KJA's hole body.

;) :lol:


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Re: Inside the Genius, 14evin

Postby lotek » 02 Mar 2012 15:26

SandChigger wrote:Dude, my anal sphincter knows more about asstrophysics than KJA's hole body.

;) :lol:

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Re: Inside the Genius, 14evin

Postby D Pope » 02 Mar 2012 20:08

I have a theory that kieth dictahikes because his young mind was impressed by early episodes of Magnum PI.
Orson Wells would dictate his books as Robin Masters, in a heard not seen fashion, a'la Charlies Angels.
If any of you ever find supporting evidence, please post it!
Leto II is gone for good, except for OM. The "pearl" was just that; a miniscule portion of what Leto was, and not a compressed version of the whole. The pearl that the worms have do not make them Leto, or in any way similar to him.
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Re: Inside the Genius, 14evin

Postby Ampoliros » 02 Mar 2012 23:53

D Pope wrote:
Alien ships filled the skies of Earth, like snowflakes in a menacing blizzard. With extended solar sails, weapons antennae, sparkling windowports, and anodized hull plates, the warliners looked like a school of fearsome fighting fish.



Wait, I missed this...

Not only do solar sails not function in an atmosphere, they would be counterproductive.

A school of fearsome fighting fish....snowflakes in a blizzard....alien ships....

ooo warliners!

I'mma pronounce this as Warlin-ers. Cause just effin call em battleships, or warships.

Or is it a cruise-liner in addition to a warship?
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Re: Inside the Genius, 14evin

Postby inhuien » 03 Mar 2012 05:59

SandChigger wrote:Dude, my anal sphincter knows more about asstrophysics than KJA's hole body.

;) :lol:

Again with the black hole jokes.
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Re: Inside the Genius, 14evin

Postby D Pope » 03 Mar 2012 10:52

Ampoliros wrote:
D Pope wrote:
Alien ships filled the skies of Earth, like snowflakes in a menacing blizzard. With extended solar sails, weapons antennae, sparkling windowports, and anodized hull plates, the warliners looked like a school of fearsome fighting fish.



Wait, I missed this...

Not only do solar sails not function in an atmosphere, they would be counterproductive.

A school of fearsome fighting fish....snowflakes in a blizzard....alien ships....

ooo warliners!

I'mma pronounce this as Warlin-ers. Cause just effin call em battleships, or warships.

Or is it a cruise-liner in addition to a warship?

This might beat out "alarm sensors."
Aren't Warlin-ers the people/aliens/things that run the Warlins?
Warlins are spiney, pufferfish-looking, spaceships (they bristle with protrusions, extrusions, and weapons {with associated antennae]) that are, in keeping with green aliens environmental policies, powered by wind- be it solar or atmospherical or lunar. Stay tuned for the next prequel that should explain how these super-efficient ultra-sails propel Warlins to FTL speeds.

Grammatically speaking, isn't he saying that the windowports and hullplates are extended?

Faster than a florist,
more fearsome than a fighting fish,
able to jump entire galaxies in a single bound,
look, up in the menacing sky,
it's, it's, _________________!
Leto II is gone for good, except for OM. The "pearl" was just that; a miniscule portion of what Leto was, and not a compressed version of the whole. The pearl that the worms have do not make them Leto, or in any way similar to him.
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Re: Inside the Genius, 14evin

Postby lotek » 03 Mar 2012 12:30

Ampoliros wrote:
Alien ships filled the skies of Earth, like snowflakes in a menacing blizzard. With extended solar sails, weapons antennae, sparkling windowports, and anodized hull plates, the warliners looked like a school of fearsome fighting fish.


Sardaukar Capt wrote:
the butthole jihad (now that's a good title) wrote:Compact units shaped like bubbles, the soaring probes filled the sky with sparkling lights and green exhaust plumes. At appropriate future times, Omnius would reconnect with each of those mechanisms, one by one.

Thinking machines were capable of making long-term plans— and living to see them carried out. By the time humans expanded into those distant star systems, Omnius would already be there.

Waiting.


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