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    Re: Keith is a Grandmaster! O_O

    Postby Hunchback Jack » 08 Dec 2012 16:32

    Nice collection of quotes, there, D.

    So this:
    Your draft words or descriptions might be redundant. So what? They can
    be fixed later. 

 You might make grammatical mistakes. So what? Promise
    yourself you’ll fix them later—after you’ve got the story written.


    I don't write fiction, but from what I've read of authors that do (whose work I like), this can be quite a reasonable approach. In the first draft, just go hell-for-leather, getting the ideas down and keeping the momentum going. But coupled with this:

    ... Surprisingly, when I went back to the initial pages, fully
    intending to spend weeks on major editing and rewriting, I found that the
    constant, intense practice had taught me to produce crisp, fast-paced
    writing as compelling as if I’d spent hours agonizing over each page.


    Yeah, no. He's not seeing his writing as others do, clearly, if he thinks that first burst of creativity is anything close to finished. And it shows - poorly chosen metaphors, much recapping and repetition, and telling, not showing. All stuff that needs to be weeded out of a first draft.

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    Re: Keith is a Grandmaster! O_O

    Postby D Pope » 08 Dec 2012 22:02

    Thanks Jack, I just marvel at the things this guy says.
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    Re: Keith is a Grandmaster! O_O

    Postby Robspierre » 08 Dec 2012 22:19

    An oldie but a goodie

    The Craft of Writing 490
    http://www.jacurutu.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2258

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    Re: Keith is a Grandmaster! O_O

    Postby TheDukester » 01 Apr 2013 14:17

    2013 Hugo nominees announced ...

    ... and no sign of Spanky or Bobo.

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    Re: Keith is a Grandmaster! O_O

    Postby lotek » 02 Apr 2013 14:22

    Well fill me with gravy and call me Jabba!
    Spice is the worm's gonads.
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    Re: Keith is a Grandmaster! O_O

    Postby Ampoliros » 02 Apr 2013 14:48

    His newest masterpiece is on stands now...at least some of them. I wouldn't have known it because our store received a whopping zero copies. Must be expected to sell well!
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    Re: Keith is a Grandmaster! O_O

    Postby Jabecca » 04 Apr 2013 04:16

    lotek wrote:Well fill me with gravy and call me Jabba!



    Yum Yum Lotek lot's of fun,
    Slap some gravy on my bun!
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    Re: Keith is a Grandmaster! O_O

    Postby lotek » 04 Apr 2013 12:32

    Jabecca wrote:
    lotek wrote:Well fill me with gravy and call me Jabba!



    Yum Yum Lotek lot's of fun,
    Slap some gravy on my bun!


    What comes in,
    Must come out.
    Spice is the worm's gonads.
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    Re: Keith is a Grandmaster! O_O

    Postby Jabecca » 05 Apr 2013 01:21

    lotek wrote:
    Jabecca wrote:
    lotek wrote:Well fill me with gravy and call me Jabba!



    Yum Yum Lotek lot's of fun,
    Slap some gravy on my bun!


    What comes in,
    Must come out.


    Yuz just bumped Sandrider.
    Yuz the best Lotek.
    Euroluv.

    What comes in,
    Must come out.

    What comes in,
    Must come out.

    Don't stop!

    What comes in,
    Must come out.
    What comes in,
    Must come out.
    What comes in,
    Must come out.
    Yes! Yes! Yes!
    What comes in,
    Must come out.
    YES!!!
    What...comes.... in,
    Must....come...out.
    What...comes.....
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    Re: Keith is a Grandmaster! O_O

    Postby lotek » 05 Apr 2013 05:04

    Would you like some eurofries with that?
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    Re: Keith is a Grandmaster! O_O

    Postby BH » 05 Apr 2013 19:30

    Jabecca wrote:
    lotek wrote:
    Jabecca wrote:
    lotek wrote:Well fill me with gravy and call me Jabba!



    Yum Yum Lotek lot's of fun,
    Slap some gravy on my bun!


    What comes in,
    Must come out.


    Yuz just bumped Sandrider.
    Yuz the best Lotek.
    Euroluv.

    What comes in,
    Must come out.

    What comes in,
    Must come out.

    Don't stop!

    What comes in,
    Must come out.
    What comes in,
    Must come out.
    What comes in,
    Must come out.
    Yes! Yes! Yes!
    What comes in,
    Must come out.
    YES!!!
    What...comes.... in,
    Must....come...out.
    What...comes.....
    Euroluv :romance-heartbeating:


    That took more time than usual, whale-bitch. You must be losing it. How Jabecca got her groove back, indeed!
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    Re: Keith is a Grandmaster! O_O

    Postby inhuien » 06 Apr 2013 04:58

    BH wrote:
    Jabecca wrote:
    lotek wrote:
    Jabecca wrote:
    lotek wrote:Well fill me with gravy and call me Jabba!



    Yum Yum Lotek lot's of fun,
    Slap some gravy on my bun!


    What comes in,
    Must come out.


    Yuz just bumped Sandrider.
    Yuz the best Lotek.
    Euroluv.

    What comes in,
    Must come out.

    What comes in,
    Must come out.

    Don't stop!

    What comes in,
    Must come out.
    What comes in,
    Must come out.
    What comes in,
    Must come out.
    Yes! Yes! Yes!
    What comes in,
    Must come out.
    YES!!!
    What...comes.... in,
    Must....come...out.
    What...comes.....
    Euroluv :romance-heartbeating:


    That took more time than usual, whale-bitch. You must be losing it. How Jabecca got her groove back, indeed!


    I think you 2 have given me a softy for life, ta. :(
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    Re: Keith is a Grandmaster! O_O

    Postby Jabecca » 06 Apr 2013 05:02

    BH wrote:
    Jabecca wrote:
    lotek wrote:
    Jabecca wrote:
    lotek wrote:Well fill me with gravy and call me Jabba!



    Yum Yum Lotek lot's of fun,
    Slap some gravy on my bun!


    What comes in,
    Must come out.


    Yuz just bumped Sandrider.
    Yuz the best Lotek.
    Euroluv.

    What comes in,
    Must come out.

    What comes in,
    Must come out.

    Don't stop!

    What comes in,
    Must come out.
    What comes in,
    Must come out.
    What comes in,
    Must come out.
    Yes! Yes! Yes!
    What comes in,
    Must come out.
    YES!!!
    What...comes.... in,
    Must....come...out.
    What...comes.....
    Euroluv :romance-heartbeating:


    That took more time than usual, whale-bitch. You must be losing it. How Jabecca got her groove back, indeed!


    That's because yuz always premature, honey,
    Now back in the basement!
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    Re: Keith is a Grandmaster! O_O

    Postby inhuien » 06 Apr 2013 05:28

    Just stop already.
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    Re: Keith is a Grandmaster! O_O

    Postby Eyes High » 11 Apr 2013 16:36

    inhuien wrote:Just stop already.

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    Re: Keith is a Grandmaster! O_O

    Postby lotek » 12 Apr 2013 04:14

    It just went out of hand, so to speak.
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    Re: Keith is a Grandmaster! O_O

    Postby Sandwurm88 » 28 Jun 2013 17:50

    Hey guys, mind if I revive this thread to note once again how much of a stupendous douche Kevin J. Anderson is?

    Check it:

    http://kjablog.com/?p=747

    I don't really need to say much more. He compares himself to Homer and Dickens. AND, apparently Becca dictates her novels at the mall or on the treadmill now....At the mall?! What the hell? I thought that doing it alone in the woods was bad...
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    Re: Keith is a Grandmaster! O_O

    Postby Omphalos » 28 Jun 2013 22:34

    You all think he ever dictated a chapter while fuckin' Becca?
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    Re: Keith is a Grandmaster! O_O

    Postby Naïve mind » 29 Jun 2013 03:28

    It makes you wonder whether his writing would be better if he were to see a typed page in front of him, see what words are repetitive, what paragraphs need improvement.
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    Re: Keith is a Grandmaster! O_O

    Postby lotek » 01 Jul 2013 06:06

    Omphalos wrote:You all think he ever dictated a chapter while fuckin' Becca?


    Well it is quite a trek.
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    Re: Keith is a Grandmaster! O_O

    Postby inhuien » 01 Jul 2013 08:36

    lotek wrote:
    Omphalos wrote:You all think he ever dictated a chapter while fuckin' Becca?


    Well it is quite a trek.


    Hopefully is not a Star Trek.

    Lotek why do you make me do these things.
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    Re: Keith is a Grandmaster! O_O

    Postby Mr. Teg » 01 Jul 2013 09:14

    Omphalos wrote:You all think he ever dictated a chapter while fuckin' Becca?


    Would explain why his chapters are so short.
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    Re: Keith is a Grandmaster! O_O

    Postby Serkanner » 01 Jul 2013 10:05

    Mr. Teg wrote:
    Omphalos wrote:You all think he ever dictated a chapter while fuckin' Becca?


    Would explain why his chapters are so short.


    :lol:
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    Re: Keith is a Grandmaster! O_O

    Postby lotek » 02 Jul 2013 08:56

    inhuien wrote:
    lotek wrote:
    Omphalos wrote:You all think he ever dictated a chapter while fuckin' Becca?


    Well it is quite a trek.


    Hopefully is not a Star Trek.

    Lotek why do you make me do these things.
    :)


    So I don't have to ^^
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    Re: Keith is a Grandmaster! O_O

    Postby Hunchback Jack » 04 Jul 2013 17:01

    Mr. Teg wrote:
    Omphalos wrote:You all think he ever dictated a chapter while fuckin' Becca?


    Would explain why his chapters are so short.


    Beautiful. :clap:

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