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    The Expanse

    Postby Omphalos » 05 Jan 2016 18:55

    Anyone watching this? Opinions?

    I think I want to see it, but I boycotted Syfy a long time ago and want to stay true to my word (though fuck my word for some great SF).
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    Re: The Expanse

    Postby Robspierre » 05 Jan 2016 22:48

    It's good, doesn't dumb down for the audience and forces you to pay attention.

    I used a gift card to get the season pass off of iTunes.

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    Re: The Expanse

    Postby inhuien » 06 Jan 2016 03:46

    Not heard it, thx for the tip!
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    Re: The Expanse

    Postby Naib » 06 Jan 2016 11:36

    I tried reading the first book this show is based on. Utter rubbish. I got a third the way through and dropped it off at a charity shop. I feel guilty about that, inflicting that tripe on some unknowing person.

    I won't be bothering to watch.
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    Re: The Expanse

    Postby Omphalos » 19 Jan 2016 15:46

    That's too bad. They were pouring a ton into promotion of this show. Fucking thing was on every FB page I saw for a while.
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    Re: The Expanse

    Postby Robspierre » 21 Jan 2016 22:47

    It's good, give it a try, you should be able to catch the first episode for free easy, it does a lot of things right.


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    Re: The Expanse

    Postby Omphalos » 22 Jan 2016 12:42

    Robspierre wrote:It's good, give it a try, you should be able to catch the first episode for free easy, it does a lot of things right.


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    Thanks Rob. Working my way through Bloodline on Netflix now, but Ill get back to this one eventually.
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    Re: The Expanse

    Postby Ampoliros » 29 Jan 2016 09:14

    I didn't think the book was rubbish, there are some heavy plot cliche's, and strangely, the show does a better job at building the feel of the conspiracy up than the book does.

    I'm about half-way through book 2, and while I haven't gotten back around to certain characters, it seems like some of the fallout from the first book has just been forgotten.

    Its not Dune, but its certainly not nu-Dune either.
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    Re: The Expanse

    Postby Ampoliros » 17 Feb 2016 21:58

    I was wrong.

    The first book is pretty good...the second one kinds just repeats it all over again, starting the third I started getting suspicious. Looked up a couple of spoilers...yeah apparently this series constantly teases and goes nowhere.

    There isn't any consequence for anything, the good guys are going to win and nothing bad is going to happen to them. I think now I know why its so popular with modern readers...

    There are some great characters, and the worst part is that there is a firm basis for some strong sci-fi in this setting, but for all the fucking comparisons this gets to Game of Thrones, no one is in danger.

    The irony will be if the show, which was enjoyable, ends up being much better than the books.
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    Re: The Expanse

    Postby Naib » 18 Feb 2016 09:54

    You got further with the books than I did.
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    Re: The Expanse

    Postby Ampoliros » 19 Feb 2016 15:25

    To quote a better work:

    "When you're looking through red-tinted glasses all the red flags just look like flags."

    I sincerely hope the show goes in a different direction, because what they build up in the books is just a massive school of red herrings. The main arc COULD have been done well, but from what it sounds it just turns into a massive cop-out. I almost feel like spoiling it just to save people time.

    The show could end up doing it better if they go in an alternate direction.
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    Re: The Expanse

    Postby Omphalos » 22 Feb 2016 13:55

    You make it sound like an episode of Lost.
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    Re: The Expanse

    Postby Ampoliros » 22 Feb 2016 17:23

    I only saw the pilot, but I don't regret not watching the series. I hate the whole mystery box thing JJ tries to sell: if the writers don't know what's in the box, your just conning the audience until you can't. Seems like Lost was just buckets of that.

    So if you mean that the Expanse is just a mystery that keeps getting played out, then i'll say no, its basically a story where they just remove the killer's piece off the gameboard because apparently it wasn't about the danger of the killer striking again, just about the apes behind glass who found the bloody knife.
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    Re: The Expanse

    Postby Omphalos » 23 Feb 2016 12:10

    Ampoliros wrote:I only saw the pilot, but I don't regret not watching the series. I hate the whole mystery box thing JJ tries to sell: if the writers don't know what's in the box, your just conning the audience until you can't. Seems like Lost was just buckets of that.

    So if you mean that the Expanse is just a mystery that keeps getting plaid out, then i'll say no, its basically a story where they just remove the killer's piece off the gameboard because apparently it wasn't about the danger of the killer striking again, just about the apes behind glass who found the bloody knife.


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