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    MALKY WAS THE IXIAN KWISATZ HADERACH!

    Postby Demerzel » 11 Nov 2011 15:13

    :O Just a ridiculous thought, cause he did seem mentally superior to most.
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    Re: MALKY WAS THE IXIAN KWISATZ HADERACH!

    Postby Freakzilla » 11 Nov 2011 15:27

    Malky was a prototype weapon against the God Emperor.
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    Re: MALKY WAS THE IXIAN KWISATZ HADERACH!

    Postby Demerzel » 11 Nov 2011 15:47

    Yeah I know delete this post it makes no sense D:
    When Paul was three I found him wearing lingerie I was planning to wear for my Duke. I asked him: "How can this be?" and he answered: "For I am the Kwisatz Haderach!" I was proud since these were the first words Paul ever spoke, but now I knew for certain that my Paul was a special boy. I brought him to Duncan's room while he was busy "training" a young maidservant in the Art of Sword-Handling. My Paul shall be the best! - Tleszer
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    Re: MALKY WAS THE IXIAN KWISATZ HADERACH!

    Postby Freakzilla » 11 Nov 2011 15:53

    Hmm... I try not to delete topics, but OK. I'll leave it up for a little while and see if anyone has any worthwhile comments.
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    Re: MALKY WAS THE IXIAN KWISATZ HADERACH!

    Postby MrFlibble » 19 Nov 2011 17:29

    I only remember a Tleilaxu KH being mentioned in Messiah, but what about the Ixian one? :think:
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    Re: MALKY WAS THE IXIAN KWISATZ HADERACH!

    Postby Serkanner » 19 Nov 2011 17:37

    MrFlibble wrote:I only remember a Tleilaxu KH being mentioned in Messiah, but what about the Ixian one? :think:


    There is no Ixian one.
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    Re: MALKY WAS THE IXIAN KWISATZ HADERACH!

    Postby SandChigger » 20 Nov 2011 09:33

    Ouch. ;)
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    Re: MALKY WAS THE IXIAN KWISATZ HADERACH!

    Postby lotek » 20 Nov 2011 11:47

    it's not every character that's a bit odd that is a potential KH.
    Don't do the kja dance by labelling everything as super dooper ;)
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    Re: MALKY WAS THE IXIAN KWISATZ HADERACH!

    Postby Freakzilla » 21 Nov 2011 00:26

    I am the Ixian KH.
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    Re: MALKY WAS THE IXIAN KWISATZ HADERACH!

    Postby gurensan » 02 Jun 2012 22:25

    I am super dooper.
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    Postby Ampoliros » 03 Jun 2012 00:54

    I'm the Murican KH.
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    Re: MALKY WAS THE IXIAN KWISATZ HADERACH!

    Postby Lundse » 03 Jun 2012 03:45

    KJA is the literary Kwisatz Haderach!

    According to his twitter feeds, the amount of working, hiking and signing being done - he is clearly in more places at once.
    When it comes to literary production, he is definitely a shortening of the way.
    His coming shook up an entire universe, fatally locking it into one stagnant path.
    He is just sooper-dooper...
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    Postby D Pope » 03 Jun 2012 04:49

    Lundse wrote:KJA is the literary Kwisatz Haderach!

    According to his twitter feeds, the amount of working, hiking and signing being done - he is clearly in more places at once.
    When it comes to literary production, he is definitely a shortening of the way.
    His coming shook up an entire universe, fatally locking it into one stagnant path.
    He is just sooper-dooper...

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    Re: MALKY WAS THE IXIAN KWISATZ HADERACH!

    Postby Smiley » 12 Dec 2014 13:20

    lotek wrote:it's not every character that's a bit odd that is a potential KH.
    Don't do the kja dance by labelling everything as super dooper ;)


    The BG seemed to take that approach. Anyone with weird abilities were likely to be killed for safety's sake in the last two books.
    I find it fascinating that some of Franks most interesting characters are the ones we know the least about.

    (no malky not a KH. Just a horrible person and potential weapon to take down a god)
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    Re: MALKY WAS THE IXIAN KWISATZ HADERACH!

    Postby distrans » 24 Jan 2018 23:17

    the tleilaxu and the ixians were neck and neck there for several thousand years...
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    Re: MALKY WAS THE IXIAN KWISATZ HADERACH!

    Postby georgiedenbro » 25 Jan 2018 10:54

    Hah, I forgot about this thread. Isn't it the case, though, that by the time of GeoD the Ixians had been infiltrated by the BT? If so, I don't know that a distinction has to be made between an Ixian KH and a BT one. If the BT had the ability to create fascinating beings, why couldn't they have combined this with the Ixian technology to conceal such a person? That's a side note, mind you, since I recall no textual reason to believe Malky (or Hwi) has the abilities of a KH. But putting aside the KH question, I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that whatever Malky was, he was a BT creation. This kind of human-as-weapon would be in keeping with BT methods, recalling Bijaz and Duncan from Messiah.
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    Re: MALKY WAS THE IXIAN KWISATZ HADERACH!

    Postby Freakzilla » 25 Jan 2018 13:42

    georgiedenbro wrote:...since I recall no textual reason to believe Malky (or Hwi) has the abilities of a KH.


    There isn't. I've never understood why people try to see a KH in every shadow. Malky's only significance is that he was a favored companion of Leto which gave them the idea to make Hwi, his opposite clone, to woo him.
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    Re: MALKY WAS THE IXIAN KWISATZ HADERACH!

    Postby georgiedenbro » 26 Jan 2018 12:10

    Freakzilla wrote:Malky's only significance is that he was a favored companion of Leto which gave them the idea to make Hwi, his opposite clone, to woo him.


    I do sometimes wonder, though, whether Malky was engineered in some way to be suitable for Leto, or whether it was a coincidence and he just really liked the guy. When I think about the book it seems to me that Malky may have shared some characteristics that Leto had; cunning, devious and of the disposition to make it look like he was doing something while really doing something else, and with a 'touch of the worm' about him - that characteristic of ferocity or animal nature that goes beyond rationality and it more like the blood calling to action. Maybe I could call it the killer instinct, or a touch of cruelty. Although Malky is in some sense portrayed as being something of a scoundrel, I think the questionable qualities in him may be similar qualities that Leto recognizes in himself, minus of course the noble purpose. Which I guess would make Hwi, as his opposite, all noble purpose and no killer instinct; completely without guile, and embodying Leto's other side, so that between them Malky and Hwi comprise Leto's main attributes.
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    Re: MALKY WAS THE IXIAN KWISATZ HADERACH!

    Postby Freakzilla » 27 Jan 2018 10:07

    georgiedenbro wrote:
    Freakzilla wrote:Malky's only significance is that he was a favored companion of Leto which gave them the idea to make Hwi, his opposite clone, to woo him.


    I do sometimes wonder, though, whether Malky was engineered in some way to be suitable for Leto, or whether it was a coincidence and he just really liked the guy. When I think about the book it seems to me that Malky may have shared some characteristics that Leto had; cunning, devious and of the disposition to make it look like he was doing something while really doing something else, and with a 'touch of the worm' about him - that characteristic of ferocity or animal nature that goes beyond rationality and it more like the blood calling to action. Maybe I could call it the killer instinct, or a touch of cruelty. Although Malky is in some sense portrayed as being something of a scoundrel, I think the questionable qualities in him may be similar qualities that Leto recognizes in himself, minus of course the noble purpose. Which I guess would make Hwi, as his opposite, all noble purpose and no killer instinct; completely without guile, and embodying Leto's other side, so that between them Malky and Hwi comprise Leto's main attributes.


    I don't think Malky was engineered for Leto's court, at least I don't recall and evidence of that in the text, but I'm sure he was selected, if not bred, for the role.
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    Re: MALKY WAS THE IXIAN KWISATZ HADERACH!

    Postby Ampoliros » 18 Feb 2018 12:18

    iirc Hwi mentions something about being the created as the complete opposite of Malky. I'm not sure where but I got the impression that Malky was at the very least molded to be a foil to Leto and based off Leto's reaction, Hwi was created.

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