SadisticCynic wrote:My first thought is this:
They where deathly afraid of Abomination; look at Alia. They probably didn't know that developing a self, separate from OM personas, is a possible solution.
But then that only applies to those born to full OM awareness...
Perhaps a better question is, is Alia a Kwisatz Haderach? She has the ancestral memories and the prescience.
I would say yes, she is what a female KH would be in FH's Dune universe. I didn't make the rules, he did, and he says females cannot handle male OM, end of story, it leads to abomination. I agree that a male KH makes sense from a political point of view, but it's more than that for sure - my interpretation of what FH wrote isn't that RM's don't have access to male OM, they just don't dare to look there because it will consume them. What made Alia different is that since she had OM from when she was in the womb, I don't think she ever had the option to not look there, and thus was doomed from the start.
The lack of mentat training maybe disqualifies her as female-KH, but someone with better memory could better quote whether it ever says for sure whether she does or does not have access to mentat training in her OM... if FH even brings it up at all.
SadisticCynic wrote:In fact I was going to mention that, but I don't think Leto had the training either. He could have taught himself from ancestral memories maybe; is there any mention of such a thing?
He didn't, but that doesn't matter, he was
Paul, in a very major way. Once someone in OM has the training sure anyone could learn it that had access to OM, but I Let II's experience was different, because like Alia he had OM from before birth... he didn't have to learn from Paul, he partially was Paul.