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    Re: Frank Herbert Interviews

    Postby SandRider » 19 Jul 2011 17:06

    and somebody really needs to get on-the-ball and re-post all these things Kwis
    has provided in the Basement Archive @T(A)U .... what's that you say? Am not
    I, the SandRider, the Moderator and Chief Curator of the Basement Archive @T(A)U?

    well, yes I am; however, am I expected to do everything myself? would you like
    me to come to your house and wipe your ass for you as well? ungrateful lazy little
    bastards, I told your mothers you would amount to nothing ....
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    Re: Frank Herbert Interviews

    Postby SandRider » 19 Jul 2011 17:33

    also, I forgot to comment :
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    Henry Kissinger? WTF?
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    Re: Frank Herbert Interviews

    Postby Freakzilla » 19 Jul 2011 20:49

    SandRider wrote:and somebody really needs to get on-the-ball and re-post all these things Kwis
    has provided in the Basement Archive @T(A)U .... what's that you say? Am not
    I, the SandRider, the Moderator and Chief Curator of the Basement Archive @T(A)U?

    well, yes I am; however, am I expected to do everything myself? would you like
    me to come to your house and wipe your ass for you as well? ungrateful lazy little
    bastards, I told your mothers you would amount to nothing ....


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    Re: Frank Herbert Interviews

    Postby ᴶᵛᵀᴬ » 19 Jul 2011 22:56

    Freakzilla wrote:Are you Lampadas people getting all these imaged interviews???


    Of course, no doubt about that. There is a time and a place for everything. :ugeek:


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        Re: Frank Herbert Interviews

        Postby ᴶᵛᵀᴬ » 19 Jul 2011 22:58

        Kwisatz wrote:Meanwhile I'm looking for someone who is living in Japan could help me buying 6-7 books which I don't have. I asked several Amazon.jp sellers and all of them refused to send books abroad.


        Ask Ionah or Chig .


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            Re: Frank Herbert Interviews

            Postby ᴶᵛᵀᴬ » 19 Jul 2011 23:17

            SandRider wrote:and thanks for the first photo, too - I've used a cropped version of that one for an avatar here before;
            my second favorite photo of Frank - and I've posted about this before, maybe you have it in your collection,

            the full-frame of this photo:
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            the full photo shows the big stuffed easy-chair Frank is sitting in, and the side table he is looking at,
            which has a stack of papers he appears to be working with ...

            I haven't actually seen this photo in many,many years; went looking for it on the web quite awhile
            back, to post as an example of how Writers actually "write" - versus whatever it is Keith does - all
            I've ever found was this cropped version ...

            for some reason, I have always associated it with Dune Messiah - as being on the back cover of one the
            first (US) paperbacks ... I also have always associated the photo with "When I Was Writing Dune", so I
            don't know if the photo itself was purported to be of Frank "while writing Dune" ....


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            Frank Herbert photo from dust jacket of collection "Nebula Award Stories 1965" edited by Damon Knight, published by Doubleday, copyright 1966 by Science Fiction Writers of America.


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                Re: Frank Herbert Interviews

                Postby Kwisatz » 20 Jul 2011 06:01

                Thanks for the last photo and the tip of Nebula book. I already bought it ;)
                In exchange - a little gift from my collection - original photo of Bernard Baruch Zakheim - Jewish sculptor - taken by FH. It was supposedly for article in Santa Rosa Press Democrat "Cast of Zakheim work shown in Santa Rosa" - 3/1/53 - final confirmation needed.

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                Maybe someone could decipher what's in the text in upper section. I see only "Zakheim" ;)

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                Re: Frank Herbert Interviews

                Postby SandChigger » 20 Jul 2011 22:36

                Askaris de Dar wrote:
                Kwisatz wrote:Meanwhile I'm looking for someone who is living in Japan could help me buying 6-7 books which I don't have. I asked several Amazon.jp sellers and all of them refused to send books abroad.


                Ask Ionah or Chig .

                Kwisatz, PM me re this if you want. (It might take a little while.)
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                Re: Frank Herbert Interviews

                Postby Kwisatz » 27 Jul 2011 11:25

                Hmm, I see nobody is able to decipher this handwritten text...

                Anyway - next stuff is coming - FH interview done by mail. It was published in fanzine S.F. ECHO #25, Apr-Aug 1976.
                It's also not mentioned in Payne's bibliography. I found 24 magazines and books so far which were not included before 1990 (year of publication of this bibliography).

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                Re: Frank Herbert Interviews

                Postby A Thing of Eternity » 27 Jul 2011 20:04

                Awe man, I don't want to read something where FH finishes a book on deadline in 7 weeks...

                At least it's not something he made a habit of.
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                Re: Frank Herbert Interviews

                Postby Hunchback Jack » 27 Jul 2011 22:21

                Kwisatz wrote:Hmm, I see nobody is able to decipher this handwritten text...


                I think it's clearly "I lol Zakheim".

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                Re: Frank Herbert Interviews

                Postby Omphalos » 27 Jul 2011 23:19

                Kwisatz wrote:Hmm, I see nobody is able to decipher this handwritten text...


                Honestly I thought it said "2 Col. Zackheim," as in "to colonel Zackheim," but I don't see FH doing l33t-speak. Maybe the second photo of the man he took?

                That second line is a mess. "From" someone maybe, or "From Col" something, like they called each other colonel? Stupid, I know, but that's all I got. Or the second word could be "Cal". He was a newspaper man in California, so maybe it was "For Cal." times/newspaper or something like that? "From Cal. Times," maybe.

                That seems to be a stock photo. You ought to contact one of those stock photo dealers and ask if they have any attribution data on it. That might help you narrow down the meaning of the writing on the back.
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                Re: Frank Herbert Interviews

                Postby ULFsurfer » 28 Jul 2011 00:14

                Yeah regarding that mysterious text.. I agree with Omphalos, I also see the same thing for the first line. But in the 2nd one I kinda see the bottom part as a full name. Especially the the first part looks like "Jim", but the second..? A wild guess: "Collins".
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                Re: Frank Herbert Interviews

                Postby Kwisatz » 28 Jul 2011 07:45

                A Thing of Eternity wrote:Awe man, I don't want to read something where FH finishes a book on deadline in 7 weeks...


                I wonder what book it was in 1972?
                My lucky guesses - Hellstrom's Hive published in Galaxy in November 1972, but it's 103k words novel (maybe serialized edition was shorter?).
                Next guess is Soul Catcher also published that year but it was only 52k word novel.
                My third guess is The Godmakers also published that year, also only 51k words. But maybe it the correct one cause he had to compile and rewrite 4 short stories into this one. Maybe it could be done in 7 weeks ;)
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                Re: Frank Herbert Interviews

                Postby Kwisatz » 28 Jul 2011 07:58

                Thanks for deciphering ;)

                I like the idea of "Jim Collins" ;)
                Colonel - I don't think so - he was a Jewish sculptor and according to DoD also a friend of FH. Maybe Cal. - as California is a good idea.
                I think it will be clear when I'll read this article about him from Santa Rosa - I'll have it soon.
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                Re: Frank Herbert Interviews

                Postby Apjak » 15 Oct 2012 09:12

                Here's the story of a Frank Herbert interview that wasn't.

                http://www.vulture.com/2012/09/frank-he ... erson.html
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                Re: Frank Herbert Interviews

                Postby Ampoliros » 15 Oct 2012 12:21

                What is it with "Andersons" fucking with Dune.

                Seriously.


                (Funny story, but knowing Frank he was either laughing or livid)
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                Re: Frank Herbert Interviews

                Postby Apjak » 15 Oct 2012 13:21

                I'm sure he was gracious as hell considering it was a crying 4 year old, but damn we need more video interviews of the master.
                I don't think the author should make the reader do that much work - Kevin J. Anderson
                We think we've updated 'Dune' for a modern readership without dumbing it down.- Brian Herbert
                There’s an unwritten compact between you and the reader. If someone enters a bookstore and sets down hard earned money(energy) for your book, you owe that person some entertainment and as much more as you can give. - Frank Herbert
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                Re: Frank Herbert Interviews

                Postby ᴶᵛᵀᴬ » 12 May 2013 19:07


                  Problems with Vertex ...





                  :arrow: EDIT: Vector [Sercon] /ed. by Geoff Rippington, Joseph Nicholas & Paul Kincaid [BSFA]
                  Issue #109, August 1982, 75 p.

                  Article: Signing for Supper. Frank Herbert interviewed by Joseph Nicholas (7/8 June 1981)



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                  Vertex : US magazine, in Slick letter-size saddle-stapled format, April 1973 to April 1975, and tabloid format June 1975-August 1975. 16 issues, 13 bimonthly, the last three monthly, published by Mankind Publishing, Los Angeles; edited by Donald J Pfeil.


                  :arrow: EDIT: The 1977 interview of Herbert conducted by MacKenzie has remained unpublished (20 years) due to the rejection of the major periodicals of the time (Rolling Stone, Playboy, Penthouse, New Yorker, Atlantic Monthly).
                  Posted online : 1997

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                      Re: Frank Herbert Interviews

                      Postby Kwisatz » 13 May 2013 03:21

                      Zeuhl wrote:Article: Signing for Supper. Frank Herbert interviewed by Joseph Nicholas (7/8 June 1981)


                      Yes, my mistake. I switched both interviews in my head ;)

                      Signing -> Singing

                      I'll post scans of Vertex 1973 interview on TAU.
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                      Re: Frank Herbert Interviews

                      Postby Sardaukar Capt » 21 Aug 2013 16:13

                      Kwisatz wrote:Next one is the real interview from Vertex 109.

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                      The last paragraph on the bottom page and onto the 2nd page describing the process he and Bill Ransom used, almost reads verbatim with my memory of how BoBo and TheHack described their "process" in an interview.

                      Isn't that a funny little conundrum.

                      Another conundrum, for a man who was (supposedly) bringing back the Thinking Machines in such a big way in Dune 7, in all these interviews unearthed that span the decades of his writing career in this thread he never really talks about machines, AI, or computers. Its always politics, religion, ecology, etc. :think:

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                      Ghanima said. "We Atreides go back to Agamemnon..."
                      Distracted, Irulan asked: "Who's Agamemnon?"

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                      Re: Frank Herbert Interviews

                      Postby Apjak » 22 Jun 2014 13:08

                      Fullerton has digitized their Frank Herbert audio collection here:

                      https://archive.org/details/cfls_00001
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                      Re: Frank Herbert Interviews

                      Postby Freakzilla » 24 Jun 2014 08:49

                      Sardaukar Capt wrote:...

                      Another conundrum, for a man who was (supposedly) bringing back the Thinking Machines in such a big way in Dune 7, in all these interviews unearthed that span the decades of his writing career in this thread he never really talks about machines, AI, or computers. Its always politics, religion, ecology, etc. :think:

                      :D

                      I think in my recent reading of Dreamer of Dune, BH mentioned something about it being political. Utopian democracy or something... I'll have to look for that when I get a chance.
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                      Re: Frank Herbert Interviews

                      Postby Naïve mind » 24 Jun 2014 15:24

                      That would mesh with Norman Spinrad's suggestion that Frank wanted to present a decent, democratic alternative to the monarchist power fantasy he'd started Dune with. Although maybe that's already fleshed out in the Bene Gesserit system in Heretics and Chapterhouse, where Reverend Mother gets watched around the clock by proctors waiting to see her crack.

                      As for machines, the BG start employing Cyborgs later on in Chapterhouse ...
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                      Re: Frank Herbert Interviews

                      Postby inhuien » 24 Jun 2014 16:53

                      And tormenting poor 'lill bots. :(
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