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dunenovel forum is going very, very, very, slow

Postby Onasander » 03 Apr 2010 20:49

The site is.... dead.... completely dead. I can't even blame you guys, it's just dead- no posting, no discussions, nothing..... half the posts are deleted, and ironically the ones that are NOT deleted are the ones that are critical.... guess someone is trying to prove something. And this site's only motivation is to whine and lurk over there, watching me post with no one to talk to.... cause no one is there. The other sites are boring. Dune internet wise is pretty much dead intellectually, no one willing to discuss it. R.I.P.

I said for Dune to survive over there on the official forums, it needs to quadruple it's active members- that means pretty much 4 people. Dear god, it's completely deserted. And I don't want to talk about it being deserted either, or how much so and so sucks anymore, cause that's not Dune, that's just whinny bitching. I don't care where the people come from, or even what their views are at this point, so long as they like dune, and can post something, anything Dune related.

Dune doesn't have a awesome TV series or famous movies base like starwars or startrek has- and the McDune books don't even come out fast enough to be a buzz- it's a franchise that's word of mouth by the fan base.... and the fanbase is all but dead. Somebody do something..... yes, maybe this new movie will boost the fanbase, but in a few years, it will be back to stagnation once again...... no one will read the damn books anymore, by ANY of the authors. We might be the last generation that will have a interest in Dune, it might be unknown amongst our kids because we couldn't get our act together.

Honestly, the Dune community as a whole, even though it's fractured, needs to rethink this whole operation all the sides have been playing. The whole damn thing is dying.... how do we move past this? And I just don't mean make BH and KJA quit or apologize and re-institute everyone here back there just as I don't expect the reverse to happen, you guys bowing out and suddenly seeing the light they claim to possess- I am talking about real, serious solutions aimed at fixing this whole problem PRIOR to the movie coming allowing us to move past this. How is what's left of the active internet community going to come together to solve this greater issue of ending the overall stagnation, and pushing foreward in INCREASE fan interest in Dune as a whole?

I'll be back in a few weeks to check this post. This site depresses me almost as much as the official site does.... both are deadlocked, stubborn, and dying.

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Re: dunenovel forum is going very, very, very, slow

Postby Nekhrun » 03 Apr 2010 21:05

Onasander wrote:The site is.... dead.... completely dead. I can't even blame you guys, it's just dead- no posting, no discussions, nothing..... half the posts are deleted, and ironically the ones that are NOT deleted are the ones that are critical.... guess someone is trying to prove something. And this site's only motivation is to whine and lurk over there, watching me post with no one to talk to.... cause no one is there. The other sites are boring. Dune internet wise is pretty much dead intellectually, no one willing to discuss it. R.I.P.


No shit. I thought about responding to someone over there last week and then I thought, I haven't in this long so fuck 'em.

Dune doesn't have a awesome TV series or famous movies base like starwars or startrek has- and the McDune books don't even come out fast enough to be a buzz- it's a franchise that's word of mouth by the fan base.... and the fanbase is all but dead. Somebody do something..... yes, maybe this new movie will boost the fanbase, but in a few years, it will be back to stagnation once again...... no one will read the damn books anymore, by ANY of the authors.

And who's fault is that? I offered them an entire Dune class to be taught in a High School Lit. class for free! (I communicated with Byron, Kim and Brian), they weren't sure how to put it online, so I did it myself and will share it with anyone who wants it; there was the Dune Spanish Fan Film that was shut down; they've been offered ideas for games; new authors; etc. What do they do? They turn everything down and blame it on Paramount and their own lawyers. The HLP is to blame for how Dune is spread. Not us.

We might be the last generation that will have a interest in Dune, it might be unknown amongst our kids because we couldn't get our act together.

Not very likely.

Honestly, the Dune community as a whole, even though it's fractured, needs to rethink this whole operation all the sides have been playing. The whole damn thing is dying.... how do we move past this? And I just don't mean make BH and KJA quit or apologize and re-institute everyone here back there just as I don't expect the reverse to happen, you guys bowing out and suddenly seeing the light they claim to possess- I am talking about real, serious solutions aimed at fixing this whole problem PRIOR to the movie coming allowing us to move past this. How is what's left of the active internet community going to come together to solve this greater issue of ending the overall stagnation, and pushing foreward in INCREASE fan interest in Dune as a whole?

I'll be back in a few weeks to check this post. This site depresses me almost as much as the official site does.... both are deadlocked, stubborn, and dying.

Until the HLP gets their heads out of kja's ass and starts following some real advice they can keep running it into the ground for all I care. We've got this place; I've got students and teachers to pass it on to and at this point all we really have is what Frank left us anyway. So go cry to them, our complaints are legitimate. Let's hope the next generation of Herberts can find a better way to continue Frank's legacy.

According to kja, we're just a couple malcontents anyway and don't have anything to say on the matter. Maybe you can join his Special Team of Awesome Super Buddies and come up with a plan over there for how you're going to save Dune; according to him and the HLP it's doing great, never been better, New York TImes BESTSELLERS EVERY TIME!!! :roll:
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Re: dunenovel forum is going very, very, very, slow

Postby SandRider » 03 Apr 2010 21:35

are you fucking kidding me here ?

are you high ?

Shitheel wrote:this site's only motivation is to whine and lurk over there, watching me post with no one to talk to


who the fuck are you again ?

"whining" is the waste-of-a-post bullshit you just typed -
occasionally surfing Merrit's wastebucket for all-too-easily-mocked stupidity is not "lurking"

the "official" Dune Forum is dead, and you are the kind of shitheel that killed it ...
also, it's been dead since the Freakbannings, you dipshit, where have you been ?

there is no "real" Dune discussion to be had about Keith's comic books,
because there is no Dune in them....

this post was so stupid, I'm tempted to start a
"Posts I think should be deleted at Jacurutu" thread ...
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Postby lotek » 04 Apr 2010 04:00

half of it made some kinf of sense, that is the part of DungNovels dying and us being stubborn lol

the rest I cannot agree...

of people have lost interest in Dune it is primarily B&K's fault, and to some extent the rest of the HLP...

pusblishing the crap they produced is what killed Dune as an inventive and creative story!

Preeqs might be dumb but even an ass has limits to how much bs he can take; and by the looks of it that limit has been reached.

Frank's work quality protects it from the same fate, and ironically Jacurutu could well be the place of the rebirth, our numbers slowly but they grow nonetheless :)
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Re: dunenovel forum is going very, very, very, slow

Postby lotek » 04 Apr 2010 04:01

and btw
Dunenovels dead?

mission accomplished!
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Re: dunenovel forum is going very, very, very, slow

Postby SandChigger » 04 Apr 2010 04:34

Onasander wrote:And this site's only motivation is to whine and lurk over there, watching me post with no one to talk to

Fuck. You. Now follow your own slime trail back to whatever shithole you slugged out of and curl up and die babbling to yourself.

Dune internet wise is pretty much dead intellectually, no one willing to discuss it.

Right. No one responds to your head-up-your-ass posts and so everything is "dead intellectually"? LOL. :lol:

I said

Oh, who gives a fuck? :roll:

I don't care where the people come from, or even what their views are at this point, so long as they like dune, and can post something, anything Dune related.

There's plenty of threads discussing Dune on this forum, if you just pull your head out and wipe the shit from your eyes.

We might be the last generation that will have a interest in Dune, it might be unknown amongst our kids because we couldn't get our act together.

You're full of shit in this, too.

Honestly, the Dune community as a whole, even though it's fractured, needs to rethink this whole operation all the sides have been playing. The whole damn thing is dying.... how do we move past this?

There is no "moving past" anything. WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IS UNFORGIVABLE. FUCK THEM AND ANYONE WHO WOULD RECONCILE WITH THEM. NO COMPROMISE. NOT NOW OR EVER.

I'll be back in a few weeks to check this post. This site depresses me almost as much as the official site does.... both are deadlocked, stubborn, and dying.

Unless you come back to discuss Dune, why fucking bother?
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Re: dunenovel forum is going very, very, very, slow

Postby lotek » 04 Apr 2010 04:43

yeah, and that too :lol:
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Re: dunenovel forum is going very, very, very, slow

Postby Serkanner » 04 Apr 2010 07:32

I just wasted 5 minutes reading your shit. I blame KJA for it.
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Postby lotek » 04 Apr 2010 07:36

yeah what an arsehole that KJA :lol:
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Postby Mr. Teg » 04 Apr 2010 07:37

Serkanner wrote:I just wasted 5 minutes reading your shit. I blame KJA for it.


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Postby MrFlibble » 04 Apr 2010 09:23

Serkanner wrote:I just wasted 5 minutes reading your shit. I blame KJA for it.

:clap: :clap: :clap:
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Postby Bijaz » 04 Apr 2010 11:20

Mr. Teg wrote:
Serkanner wrote:I just wasted 5 minutes reading your shit. I blame KJA for it.


:D


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Re: dunenovel forum is going very, very, very, slow

Postby SandChigger » 04 Apr 2010 11:24

Serkanner wrote:I just wasted 5 minutes reading your shit. I blame KJA for it.

:lol:

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Re: dunenovel forum is going very, very, very, slow

Postby Ampoliros » 04 Apr 2010 11:31

Serkanner wrote:I just wasted 5 minutes reading your shit. I blame KJA for it.


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Postby Freakzilla » 04 Apr 2010 13:39

This forum is dying?

OMG!

Someone should tell the members!
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Re: dunenovel forum is going very, very, very, slow

Postby Freakzilla » 04 Apr 2010 14:16

BTW, even before there ever was an official Dune forum there were fan forums. History has show that there is usualy only enough intrest to keep one busy at a time.

There can be only one...

You're lookin at it.
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Re: dunenovel forum is going very, very, very, slow

Postby lotek » 04 Apr 2010 14:37

Freakzilla wrote:There can be only one...


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nb
and quoted correctly without the common mistake "there can only be one"
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Re: dunenovel forum is going very, very, very, slow

Postby TheDukester » 04 Apr 2010 23:03

The site is.... dead.... completely dead.

Blame the HLP.

... it's just dead- no posting, no discussions, nothing.

HLP, again.

.... half the posts are deleted, and ironically the ones that are NOT deleted are the ones that are critical.

HLP.

Dear god, it's completely deserted.

That's the HLP running everybody off.

Dune doesn't have a awesome TV series or famous movies base like starwars or startrek has.

The fault for all of that lies squarely with the HLP.

... but in a few years, it will be back to stagnation once again.

Through the ineptitude of the HLP.

The whole damn thing is dying.... how do we move past this?

The HLP needs to relinquish the copyright.

I am talking about real, serious solutions aimed at fixing this whole problem PRIOR to the movie coming allowing us to move past this.

You have obviously never attempted to contact any member of the HLP.

I'll be back in a few weeks to check this post.

I really don't give a shit if you do or not, but I'll say, for the record, that my responses here are serious. The HLP will eventually be remembered as the worst, most inept, and massively clueless literary trust in all of human history.

You've got problems with the way Dune is being handled and "discussed" (when discussion is even allowed, that is)? Don't come bitching to us — complain directly to the HLP.
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Postby Freakzilla » 05 Apr 2010 02:22

TheDukester wrote:I really don't give a shit if you do or not, but I'll say, for the record, that my responses here are serious. The HLP will eventually be remembered as the worst, most inept, and massively clueless literary trust in all of human history.

You've got problems with the way Dune is being handled and "discussed" (when discussion is even allowed, that is)? Don't come bitching to us — complain directly to the HLP.


All too true.

They ran off or banned their customers,they deserve to fail. This forum is here as living proof.
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Postby lotek » 05 Apr 2010 05:10

Sheila: Times have changed
Our kids are getting worse
They won't obey their parents
They just want to fart and curse!
Sharon: Should we blame the government?
Liane: Or blame society?
Dads: Or should we blame the images on TV?
Sheila: No, blame the HLP
Everyone: Blame the HLP
Sheila: With all their beady little eyes
And flapping heads so full of lies
Everyone: Blame the HLP
Blame the HLP
Sheila: We need to form a full assault
Everyone: It's the HLP's fault!
Sharon: Don't blame me
For my son Stan
He saw the darn cartoon
And now he's off to join the Klan!
Liane: And my boy Eric once
Had my picture on his shelf
But now when I see him he tells me to fuck myself!
Sheila: Well, blame the HLP
Everyone: Blame the HLP
Sheila: It seems that everything's gone wrong
Since the HLP came along
Everyone: Blame the HLP
Blame the HLP
Copy Guy: They're not even a real literary trust anyway
Ms. McCormick: My son could've been a doctor or a lawyer rich and true,
Instead he burned up like a piggy on the barbecue
Everyone: Should we blame the matches?
Should we blame the fire?
Or the doctors who allowed him to expire?
Sheila: heck no!
Everyone: Blame the HLP
Blame the HLP
Sheila: With all their brains in jars
Liane: And that bitch KJA too
Everyone: Blame the HLP
Shame on the HLP
For...
The stupid we must stop
The trash we must bash
The dumbing down
Must all be undone
We must blame them and cause a fuss
Before somebody thinks of blaming uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuus!!!!
shit someone is on this thread ;)
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Re: dunenovel forum is going very, very, very, slow

Postby A Little Galach » 05 Apr 2010 08:28

Most people here are critical of the new books. People who are critical of the new books are banned at DN. I fail to understand the logic that the people here are to blame for the drop in traffic at DN.

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Re: dunenovel forum is going very, very, very, slow

Postby lotek » 05 Apr 2010 09:14

you shouldn't worry too much, the DN forum is not the only thing that is going very very... slow here, our friend onasander has a history of not making much sense :)

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Postby DuneFishUK » 05 Apr 2010 09:27

A Little Galach wrote:Most people here are critical of the new books. People who are critical of the new books are banned at DN. I fail to understand the logic that the people here are to blame for the drop in traffic at DN.

People who are critical of the new books are the only ones (apparently) capable of Dune discussion. If they liked the new books they would discuss Dune with other people who like the new books, and they wouldn't have been banned from Dune Novels.

Makes perfect sense.


Like the new books you bastards. Then can we discuss Dune.

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Postby lotek » 05 Apr 2010 09:32

apparently they're having trouble with finding preeqs now :)

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Re: dunenovel forum is going very, very, very, slow

Postby SandChigger » 05 Apr 2010 13:19

Well, I'm sure not everyone below the "50% line" likes sci-fi. ;)
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