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Dune Word Pronounciations

Postby Streaksy » 19 Sep 2011 19:40

I sometimes wonder if words are intended to be pronounced as I assumed.

The first exposure I had to Dune was the PC game. Then the Lynch film (point-missing award winning). Then the books. Then the series thing. (not quite as bad as the film but ugh. It took a LONG time before I could watch past the Gom Jabbar scene because when he recites the litanny agaisnt fear, she (the supposed BG megamind) says "YES! PREY!" AGH!! Either take it out or don't gratuitously stifle the whole point of the scene, as only the ficklest Dune fans could abide that. And I think we're all here because we're not fickle.

Oops. Back to topic..

So, in the movies stuff, there are several words pronounced different to how I imagined. Here's how I always hear some of them.

Yueh: Surely it's Yoo-Eh, not Yoo-Ee
Gesserit: I thought the G was said normally, not like a J
Muad'Dib: I thought it was dib, not deeb, but at least that one makes sense
Sietch: Seetch
Tabr: Taber
Irulan: Ih-roo-l'n, emphasising the U, not the A
Caladan: Only emphasising the first A, not the middle
Giedi Prime: Jee-edd-eye prime. A bit like Jedi. Wouldnt be surprised if it was among the things Lucas ripped off from Dune
Piter: I thought it was a sonanym of Peter. Just a different spelling. I'm prolly wrong there.
Thufir: This was before I knew that -ir was said as -eer. Thought it sounded like Thoofer.
Harkonnen: Only the "hark" emphasised, and the rest said with underplayed vowels. Can't see why the O would be so drawn-out.
Rautha: Rawtha
Suk: Suck, not Sook/Suke

I don't know what research was done by the film makers.

Quick note. The novel says that Grandpa Vlad the fat pedo weighs about 200 but only carries 50 on his feet, meaning he walks normally. The screenplays have him swirling around the sky all fancy-free. His suspensors are just support!

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Re: Dune Word Pronounciations

Postby Freakzilla » 19 Sep 2011 19:55

Straight from the horses mouth: http://usul.net/books/sounds.htm
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Re: Dune Word Pronounciations

Postby Streaksy » 19 Sep 2011 20:49

:O He doesn't sound like a bearded, patronly man-of-the-world at all! He sounds like a Dungeons & Dragons player! Didn't know he'd even been recorded. I don't even know what he looks like. :P Scared to look now. Thanks a lot. How do you know about all this stuff??

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Re: Dune Word Pronounciations

Postby Freakzilla » 19 Sep 2011 20:58

Streaksy wrote:I don't even know what he looks like. :P Scared to look now.


viewtopic.php?f=17&t=2621&hilit=the+master

How do you know about all this stuff??


I've been a Dune fan since 1984, and this is my forum, so... :wink:
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Re: Dune Word Pronounciations

Postby Streaksy » 19 Sep 2011 23:10

Oh its your forum!? Love the title :P Very apt since I hear the official Dune sell-out crew aren't your biggest fans.

I was 4 in 1984. ;P I didn't read the books until I was 17 in 1997. I've tried Dune forums a couple of times in the past and it was all idiot posers. Coming here has sparked my fascination again. All I've done in the last 8 hours is read Dune. Hence writing that list of Dune words from early in the book and posting my pronounciations of them a few hours ago.

Frank doesn't look like how he sounds. Authors reading aloud from their own books seem to be irritated and scolding, or is it just me..

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Re: Dune Word Pronounciations

Postby Freakzilla » 19 Sep 2011 23:30

Streaksy wrote:Oh its your forum!? Love the title :P Very apt since I hear the official Dune sell-out crew aren't your biggest fans.


Nobody said they were smart. :wink:

I've tried Dune forums a couple of times in the past and it was all idiot posers.


There can be only one.

Coming here has sparked my fascination again. All I've done in the last 8 hours is read Dune.


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Re: Dune Word Pronounciations

Postby Demerzel » 21 Sep 2011 15:22

I always thought Chani was Chaa-nee and not Chay-nee. Also I disagree with some of the pronunciations in that linked page by Freakzilla here as I live in a place where names similar to those exist.

I'm disappointed that it's deeb and not dib in Muad'Dib. Muahd-dib was what I expected. You know, clear your throat while saying it the Arab way :S.
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Re: Dune Word Pronounciations

Postby Demerzel » 21 Sep 2011 15:24

WAIT WHAT THOSE ARE FRANK'S WORDS? All hail. I bow down in submission.

I agree with Streaksy. Are you sure that isn't his faggot grandson who has the HLP rights to use Frank's name?
When Paul was three I found him wearing lingerie I was planning to wear for my Duke. I asked him: "How can this be?" and he answered: "For I am the Kwisatz Haderach!" I was proud since these were the first words Paul ever spoke, but now I knew for certain that my Paul was a special boy. I brought him to Duncan's room while he was busy "training" a young maidservant in the Art of Sword-Handling. My Paul shall be the best! - Tleszer

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Re: Dune Word Pronounciations

Postby A Thing of Eternity » 21 Sep 2011 15:31

Demerzel wrote: Are you sure that isn't his faggot grandson who has the HLP rights to use Frank's name?


That's Frank's voice, I know it well as I have a collection of vinyl of him speaking (which is where some of those come from).

Also, the faggot was his son Bruce, who sadly died from AIDS some while ago. His grandson Byron I'm pretty sure is straight.
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Re: Dune Word Pronounciations

Postby Freakzilla » 21 Sep 2011 15:32

Demerzel wrote:WAIT WHAT THOSE ARE FRANK'S WORDS? All hail. I bow down in submission.

I agree with Streaksy. Are you sure that isn't his faggot grandson who has the HLP rights to use Frank's name?


I don't think "faggot" is the proper nomenclature. :naughty:
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Re: Dune Word Pronounciations

Postby A Thing of Eternity » 21 Sep 2011 15:33

Freakzilla wrote:
Demerzel wrote:WAIT WHAT THOSE ARE FRANK'S WORDS? All hail. I bow down in submission.

I agree with Streaksy. Are you sure that isn't his faggot grandson who has the HLP rights to use Frank's name?


I don't think "faggot" is the proper nomenclature. :naughty:


I'll take this one, leave it to me. :wink:
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Re: Dune Word Pronounciations

Postby Demerzel » 21 Sep 2011 15:38

Slipped out -.-

Flowerpot + maggot = faggot!
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Re: Dune Word Pronounciations

Postby A Thing of Eternity » 21 Sep 2011 15:40

Flowerpot? :?
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Re: Dune Word Pronounciations

Postby Apjak » 21 Sep 2011 15:42

Streaksy wrote::O He doesn't sound like a bearded, patronly man-of-the-world at all! He sounds like a Dungeons & Dragons player! Didn't know he'd even been recorded. I don't even know what he looks like. :P Scared to look now. Thanks a lot. How do you know about all this stuff??




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Re: Dune Word Pronounciations

Postby Demerzel » 21 Sep 2011 15:42

You know, these things:

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When Paul was three I found him wearing lingerie I was planning to wear for my Duke. I asked him: "How can this be?" and he answered: "For I am the Kwisatz Haderach!" I was proud since these were the first words Paul ever spoke, but now I knew for certain that my Paul was a special boy. I brought him to Duncan's room while he was busy "training" a young maidservant in the Art of Sword-Handling. My Paul shall be the best! - Tleszer

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Re: Dune Word Pronounciations

Postby Demerzel » 21 Sep 2011 15:44

He sounds totally different. He's a StarCraft Battle Report commentator in pronunciation guide.
When Paul was three I found him wearing lingerie I was planning to wear for my Duke. I asked him: "How can this be?" and he answered: "For I am the Kwisatz Haderach!" I was proud since these were the first words Paul ever spoke, but now I knew for certain that my Paul was a special boy. I brought him to Duncan's room while he was busy "training" a young maidservant in the Art of Sword-Handling. My Paul shall be the best! - Tleszer

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Postby A Thing of Eternity » 21 Sep 2011 15:47

Demerzel wrote:He sounds totally different. He's a StarCraft Battle Report commentator in pronunciation guide.


Different mic positions/processing applied afterwards. The pronunciation guide is him 100% for sure, I have the recordings in my possession that many of those clips were taken from, he just has a kinda high pitched funny voice.
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Re: Dune Word Pronounciations

Postby A Thing of Eternity » 21 Sep 2011 15:49

Demerzel wrote:You know, these things:

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Well yeah! :lol: I just wasn't sure what flowerpots, in combination with maggots, had to do with Byron! :lol:
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Re: Dune Word Pronounciations

Postby Demerzel » 21 Sep 2011 15:50

^ That's how I like my authors. Eccentric and weird in their own way.

Also, I apologize for the word. I come from more raucous forums.
When Paul was three I found him wearing lingerie I was planning to wear for my Duke. I asked him: "How can this be?" and he answered: "For I am the Kwisatz Haderach!" I was proud since these were the first words Paul ever spoke, but now I knew for certain that my Paul was a special boy. I brought him to Duncan's room while he was busy "training" a young maidservant in the Art of Sword-Handling. My Paul shall be the best! - Tleszer

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Re: Dune Word Pronounciations

Postby A Thing of Eternity » 21 Sep 2011 15:54

Demerzel wrote:^ That's how I like my authors. Eccentric and weird in their own way.


Oh FH has that in spades!

Also, I apologize for the word. I come from more raucous forums.


Not a worry, we're far from polite or watching our language here, that's just one particularly offensive word. You might as well have called Byron a nigger, which would be equally innaccurate and offensive! :wink:
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Postby Freakzilla » 21 Sep 2011 15:58

I love my dead, gay son!

Name that movie...
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Re: Dune Word Pronounciations

Postby A Thing of Eternity » 21 Sep 2011 16:25

Freakzilla wrote:I love my dead, gay son!

Name that movie...


Damnit, I almost have it, but I can't quite remember... bahhhhh!
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Re: Dune Word Pronounciations

Postby JustSomeGuy » 21 Sep 2011 17:31

People make a big deal about sexual orientation, but I don't see what the big deal is. It's like this whole military thing. Yeah, gays should have the right to serve, but why the need to tell everyone you're gay, or straight, or whatever. Hmm... Sometimes I type up comments like this, but then end up not posting them. I'm afraid someone'll take offence, but, you know, fuck it.

The pronunciations: I think I was pretty much spot on on most of them. The ones I was getting wrong (off the top of my head) were "Chani" and "Atreides."

I really like the way Frank Herbert tied the Atreides back to Atreus and his cursed line. So epic...
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Postby A Thing of Eternity » 21 Sep 2011 17:44

JustSomeGuy wrote:People make a big deal about sexual orientation, but I don't see what the big deal is. It's like this whole military thing. Yeah, gays should have the right to serve, but why the need to tell everyone you're gay, or straight, or whatever. Hmm... Sometimes I type up comments like this, but then end up not posting them. I'm afraid someone'll take offence, but, you know, fuck it.


Ha, no that's not offensive - the issue with the military thing is that they shouldn't have to hide the fact that they're not straight, it should be a non-issue. Obviously it isn't, but one day it will be.
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Postby Omphalos » 21 Sep 2011 22:55

Freakzilla wrote:I love my dead, gay son!

Name that movie...



Heathers. Kurt & Ram's repressed homosexual suicide pact.


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