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frank herbert was an extension of others influence

Postby distrans » 07 Jan 2013 01:10

ive noticed reference to the philopophical entertainer alan watts

whoms else works have you noted he animates in his writings?

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Re: frank herbert was an extension of others influence

Postby inhuien » 07 Jan 2013 04:52

Honestly, I don't know. Doctor we need an academic in this thread, Stat.
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Re: frank herbert was an extension of others influence

Postby Apjak » 07 Jan 2013 11:09

Carl Jung

Particularly "Collective Unconscious" in Destination: Void.
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Re: frank herbert was an extension of others influence

Postby Omphalos » 07 Jan 2013 12:42

Give Santaroga Barrier a try. If that is what you are looking for, that one'll keep you busy for days.

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Re: frank herbert was an extension of others influence

Postby Apjak » 07 Jan 2013 15:44

Although, Santeroga Barrier It's more of a Collective-alternate Conciousness
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Re: frank herbert was an extension of others influence

Postby distrans » 07 Jan 2013 17:41

i throughly enjoyed the Santeroga Barrier!
read quite a few of him non dune books over the last decade

not sure if your farmiliar with the works of alan watts, the "philosophical entertainer" who spoke wrote and lectured from the 50's into the early 70's. he was a volunteer programmer on the bay area pacifica station from the early 50's and he gained a wide audience.

if youve listened to him speak much, he comes around a few times to wanting to be dumped in a hole with a tree planted over him when he dies. his descriptions of a burial he would want and how modern reverence about the event was foolish is almost identical to odrade describing the practice on chapterhouse to skytale. i suspect that frank was farmiliar with watts works

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Re: frank herbert was an extension of others influence

Postby cmsahe » 07 Apr 2013 18:28

distrans wrote:ive noticed reference to the philopophical entertainer alan watts

whoms else works have you noted he animates in his writings?


Terence McKenna, in his non fiction book "Food of the Gods" he writes on how the pre-agriculture humans used hallucinogens to erase the boundaries of the ego and to engage in large orgies that helped to cement the tribe, and the resulting children were taken care of and raised by everyone.
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Re: frank herbert was an extension of others influence

Postby lotek » 08 Apr 2013 05:37

McKenna ?

How about K. Dick ?

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That was some weird read.
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Re: frank herbert was an extension of others influence

Postby inhuien » 08 Apr 2013 05:59

cmsahe wrote:
distrans wrote:ive noticed reference to the philopophical entertainer alan watts

whoms else works have you noted he animates in his writings?


Terence McKenna, in his non fiction book "Food of the Gods" he writes on how the pre-agriculture humans used hallucinogens to erase the boundaries of the ego and to engage in large orgies that helped to cement the tribe, and the resulting children were taken care of and raised by everyone.

Is that an on topic point because the novel you refer to wasn't published till 92.
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