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Postby SandChigger » 15 Aug 2009 02:01

MattMahdi wrote:And by the way, I'm pretty sure that the "Death Cell Interview" is actually based on what Frank's son had written in Winds....

Say what the fuck?

How can something written in the 60s be "based on" something shat out by a hack squatting beside a forest path in 2008-9? :roll:

Did you mean to say instead that you believe that what is in Winds was based on the "Death Cell Interview"?
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Re: CH:D/HoD differences copy

Postby TheDukester » 15 Aug 2009 02:03

Same thought, but I wasn't sure how to approach it.

I'll keep it simple, I guess: please tell us you inadvertently got those two things reversed.
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Re: CH:D/HoD differences copy

Postby Seraphan » 15 Aug 2009 04:39

Freak, can i get a copy sent to my e-mail please?
Many thanks in advance. :P
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Re: CH:D/HoD differences copy

Postby Freakzilla » 15 Aug 2009 05:13

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Re: CH:D/HoD differences copy

Postby Seraphan » 15 Aug 2009 05:16

Thank you, Thank you, thank you. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Postby MattMahdi » 15 Aug 2009 10:07

SandChigger wrote:
MattMahdi wrote:And by the way, I'm pretty sure that the "Death Cell Interview" is actually based on what Frank's son had written in Winds....

How can something written in the 60s be "based on" something shat out by a hack squatting beside a forest path in 2008-9?

Did you mean to say instead that you believe that what is in Winds was based on the "Death Cell Interview"?

OUCH. Way to stir up controversy.

I haven't read Winds but it does have a great cover. Just browsed the Amazon reviews for fun....

And trust me I was kidding. I'd forgotten all about Bronso's "Death Cell Interview" because my copy doesn't have it. Which is strange. But one of the Winds reviews went off about Bronso and it seemed a good chance to play around.

FWIW, as far as that particular sandbox is concerned, I had hope for their conclusion. And I at least enjoyed everything of Hunters up to the final chapter. Well, aside from the fact that Duncan and Teg were pretty stupid where it was obvious that we probably had an impostor aboard. Maybe I'd better leave that sandbox alone after all....

Let's just leave this at the fact that it was only for a laugh.

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Re: CH:D/HoD differences copy

Postby SandChigger » 15 Aug 2009 10:32

OK. :)

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Re: CH:D/HoD differences copy

Postby tenfingersofdoom » 05 Jun 2010 15:56

Can I get a copy sent to me too please?
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Re: CH:D/HoD differences copy

Postby Freakzilla » 05 Jun 2010 16:31

tenfingersofdoom wrote:Can I get a copy sent to me too please?


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Re: CH:D/HoD differences copy

Postby tenfingersofdoom » 05 Jun 2010 21:37

Thank you.
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Re: CH:D/HoD differences copy

Postby AzmureII » 07 Jan 2011 03:25

Sorry, I'm late to this party I know, but is it still possible to get those copies of HOD and CH:D that list all the differences between the US and UK editions?

I've only ever read the UK versions of HOD and CH:D but I recently purchased the whole set of US editions and was going to use them for my next reread. I had been told that there were slight differences, such as the opening prologue of HOD being left out of the US edition, but I didn't realise they were so major or widespread. These colour-coded versions sound like a fantastic resource.

On a related note, for those that have read both versions, which do you prefer and why? And did reading the different versions make you rethink anything or add anything to your enjoyment of them (or detract from it, as the case may be)?

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Re: CH:D/HoD differences copy

Postby SandRider » 07 Jan 2011 09:48

you're not late to the party;
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Re: CH:D/HoD differences copy

Postby Freakzilla » 07 Jan 2011 11:16

AzmureII wrote:Sorry, I'm late to this party I know, but is it still possible to get those copies of HOD and CH:D that list all the differences between the US and UK editions?


You've got mail!

I've only ever read the UK versions of HOD and CH:D but I recently purchased the whole set of US editions and was going to use them for my next reread. I had been told that there were slight differences, such as the opening prologue of HOD being left out of the US edition, but I didn't realise they were so major or widespread. These colour-coded versions sound like a fantastic resource.

On a related note, for those that have read both versions, which do you prefer and why? And did reading the different versions make you rethink anything or add anything to your enjoyment of them (or detract from it, as the case may be)?

Thanks.


I plan on reading these composites in my next re-read of the series and making note of the differences in th Reading Group.
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Re: CH:D/HoD differences copy

Postby A Thing of Eternity » 07 Jan 2011 14:27

Some of the changes were fairly major, I found them pretty interesting to read.
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Re: CH:D/HoD differences copy

Postby AzmureII » 07 Jan 2011 18:14

Thanks a lot, Freak. I look forward to reading these.

It's interesting that there were such major changes between the US and UK editions for these two but not for the first four books (not including the deathcell interview/Weird of Dune thing in DM). I've heard about similar things happening in other books, but not any that I've read as often or know as well as HOD or CH:D.

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Re: CH:D/HoD differences copy

Postby Freakzilla » 07 Jan 2011 18:49

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Re: CH:D/HoD differences copy

Postby A Thing of Eternity » 07 Jan 2011 19:35

It's possible he had someone lazy working for him at that time who forgot to send the final drafts for those books to certain publishers, so either North America or UK ended up with a not-quite-final edit... I don't know, that's my best bet.
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Re: CH:D/HoD differences copy

Postby AzmureII » 07 Jan 2011 20:48

Well I've just read through the HoD differences, which weren't quite as major as I was expecting. In general it seemed to me that the UK version was a little more complete. The additional material just seemed to add a bit more richness and texture to the whole thing, especially things like the prologue and the passage about Teg's diffusing of the situation that threatened five planets with BG keeps and bases.

I don't think the small changes to Waff's reactions during his grilling by Taraza really made that much of difference to that scene, although the UK version is certainly more explicit about his intentions.

All in all, I definitely prefer the UK version. Perhaps it's just because I'm used to that version, but to me it just feels more complete.

Will get onto CH:D later today.

Thanks to Edric for all his painstaking work in creating these composite copies and making it easier for the rest of us to compare the differences.


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