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Posted: 16 Mar 2009 04:09
by SandChigger
Tell 'em it's a new type of genetically altered beef cow. :P

Posted: 17 Mar 2009 16:31
by moreh_yeladim
Joined OH FB group. Are we ready to conduct razzia on the BH and KJA Dune group?

Re: Orthodox Herbertarian Facebook Group

Posted: 27 Jun 2009 10:31
by ionah
please, visit and join also the French Orthodoxian FB Group : " Sur Dune avec Frank Herbert " :animals-ginger:

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http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=42827052570

even if you do not speak french, it is cool to have people join the brother-community,
you're warmly welcome !! :animals-ginger: :animals-ginger: :animals-ginger: :animals-ginger:

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Re: Orthodox Herbertarian Facebook Group

Posted: 27 Jun 2009 11:40
by SandChigger
ionah wrote:Image

:laughing:

Re: Orthodox Herbertarian Facebook Group

Posted: 29 Jun 2009 10:42
by GamePlayer
ionah wrote:Image


Loving it :)

Re: Orthodox Herbertarian Facebook Group

Posted: 29 Jun 2009 12:40
by DuneFishUK
ionah wrote:Image

I remember that :whistle:

:)

Re: Orthodox Herbertarian Facebook Group

Posted: 29 Jun 2009 18:36
by SandChigger
:lol:

Like the prodigal come home, eh? ;)

Jerry sent you a message on Facebook...

Posted: 23 Jul 2009 11:54
by SandChigger
Jerry sent you a message.

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Subject: Hating...

I dont know where the Genesis of your hate comes from but I will say this.Mocking,scoffing,and casting stones are really nothing more than a form of self expression which reveals a deep and bitter lack of understanding.It takes so much energy to hate,when love is standing right there waiting to be felt,and enjoyed.Does it feel good to hate? No.It also eats you up inside.

Now about Brian and Kevin.Regardless of how you may feel about someone besides Frank writing about the 'fictional' universe known as the Landsraad,and the characters within it,do you have to personally attack two very nice guys,whom would give you the shirt off their backs?

It is obvious that you dont know them,nor care too.

Im amazed at the things Ive read here,and disappointed.You are missing so much.Both in the form of literature,and friendship.

It is altogether too easy to hate,and an altogether sophomoric reality to engage in heinous E-thuggery.Would you say these things to their faces?Would you feel as convicted,and sure of your hate for these two guys If they were standing right before you?Sincerely.They have families,nice people,and live life just like you each day.They love,they laugh,they have feelings,and they are just trying to get along in the same world as you and I.Take some of that hate that drives you,and turn it inward for a bit.Do you need some sort of validation?Have you been ignored or overlooked?What is your motivation for your hate?

I am a serious fan of Frank Herbert,have been for many years,and love his work/art.I am a serious collector of all things Herbert.

While the writing styles of Frank,Brian, and Kevin are different,there are at least two real good reasons why it is a real Good thing that they are writing these books.

One is that it is enjoyable to continue to experience the world of Dune and all its wonders.

Two is that you you/we have an opportunity to engage in, and become a part of this vast and growing 'fictional' universe and it is fun.

Interaction is about and for sharing opinions and beliefs,we can choose to be nice,or mean in our expression of those opinions.How we choose to do so says much about our character.

I hope in the future that you would reconsider the nature of your opinions,and what you are trying to say,and achieve.

I dont expect to change your opinion about Brian and Kevins work,or even gain your respect,in fact Im quite sure that Im buying myself some future pain by writing to you today,but Its worth sharing what I believe,and asking you the question can we conduct ourselves with dignity,respect,and intelligence when expressing our opinions?

We all deserve that much.

Thanks for taking the time to read this.

Lets enjoy the literature while we can.

Jerry


"...in fact Im quite sure that Im buying myself some future pain by writing to you today..."

Welcome to my world. :twisted:

Re: Jerry sent you a message on Facebook...

Posted: 23 Jul 2009 12:04
by Freakzilla
SandChigger wrote:
Jerry sent you a message.

--------------------
Subject: Hating...

I dont know where the Genesis of your hate comes from but I will say this.Mocking,scoffing,and casting stones are really nothing more than a form of self expression which reveals a deep and bitter lack of understanding.It takes so much energy to hate,when love is standing right there waiting to be felt,and enjoyed.Does it feel good to hate? No.It also eats you up inside.

Now about Brian and Kevin.Regardless of how you may feel about someone besides Frank writing about the 'fictional' universe known as the Landsraad,and the characters within it,do you have to personally attack two very nice guys,whom would give you the shirt off their backs?

It is obvious that you dont know them,nor care too.

Im amazed at the things Ive read here,and disappointed.You are missing so much.Both in the form of literature,and friendship.

It is altogether too easy to hate,and an altogether sophomoric reality to engage in heinous E-thuggery.Would you say these things to their faces?Would you feel as convicted,and sure of your hate for these two guys If they were standing right before you?Sincerely.They have families,nice people,and live life just like you each day.They love,they laugh,they have feelings,and they are just trying to get along in the same world as you and I.Take some of that hate that drives you,and turn it inward for a bit.Do you need some sort of validation?Have you been ignored or overlooked?What is your motivation for your hate?

I am a serious fan of Frank Herbert,have been for many years,and love his work/art.I am a serious collector of all things Herbert.

While the writing styles of Frank,Brian, and Kevin are different,there are at least two real good reasons why it is a real Good thing that they are writing these books.

One is that it is enjoyable to continue to experience the world of Dune and all its wonders.

Two is that you you/we have an opportunity to engage in, and become a part of this vast and growing 'fictional' universe and it is fun.

Interaction is about and for sharing opinions and beliefs,we can choose to be nice,or mean in our expression of those opinions.How we choose to do so says much about our character.

I hope in the future that you would reconsider the nature of your opinions,and what you are trying to say,and achieve.

I dont expect to change your opinion about Brian and Kevins work,or even gain your respect,in fact Im quite sure that Im buying myself some future pain by writing to you today,but Its worth sharing what I believe,and asking you the question can we conduct ourselves with dignity,respect,and intelligence when expressing our opinions?

We all deserve that much.

Thanks for taking the time to read this.

Lets enjoy the literature while we can.

Jerry


"...in fact Im quite sure that Im buying myself some future pain by writing to you today..."

Welcome to my world. :twisted:


He's right, you are a mean, old nasty bastard, but that still doesn't change the fact that KJA & BH are shitty hacks.

:lol:

Re: Orthodox Herbertarian Facebook Group

Posted: 23 Jul 2009 12:17
by Ampoliros
Jerry sounds like a nice guy. I don't 'Hate' KJA as a tool. I hate what he's done to Dune. Perhaps we should mention (again) the fact that KJA chooses to ignore, rather than 'interact' with his audience, unless said audience is engaged in fellatio of his works or self.

I'm afraid the fanboys will always look upon Dune as a 'great book' and there in lies the problem, they don't hold anything as sacred.

is it okay to fuck another woman if she's wearing your wife's clothes? It reminds me of a story I heard on NPR where Snapper was asked by Walmart to make a cheaper version of their lawnmowers to sell at Walmart. Snapper said no, because their brand name was built on quality, and it would be counterproductive to their business model and brand name to make a cheap mower just to gain another distributor.

Re: Jerry sent you a message on Facebook...

Posted: 23 Jul 2009 12:30
by SandChigger
Freakzilla wrote:He's right, you are a mean, old nasty bastard

Hey, when did I ever say I was a nice guy or ask anyone to like me? Nyah! :snooty: :P

Well, I'm off to find out who "Jerry" is.

Getting to know you ... you/we,
Getting to know all about you you/we!
:twisted:

Re: Orthodox Herbertarian Facebook Group

Posted: 23 Jul 2009 12:30
by Omphalos
Love? Who the heck is this guy?

Re: Orthodox Herbertarian Facebook Group

Posted: 23 Jul 2009 12:38
by SandChigger
Um, (incorrect) capitalization of "Genesis" and mention of "love" screams Xian to me.

Mention of The Hacks Twain giving me the "shirt off their backs" makes me wonder if he knows them personally, like good ole boy Shawn.

I'm wondering if he isn't an older gentleman. I'm not really going to grief him much because that's evidently what he expects me to do and it might feed some latent "What I Did for Love!" martyr need of his. ;)

Edit:

Nope, was wrong on the dotty old guy vibe. Young guy from Orange County. No KJA or HerboMerries among his friends. Who knows. Just another of the silent thousands in one of those Dune groups. A Dune groupie in other words. :roll:

Re: Orthodox Herbertarian Facebook Group

Posted: 23 Jul 2009 12:45
by Mandy
What he really means is that he wants you to conform, don't make waves, don't be an individual with an opinion. Let the mediocrity wash over you, become one with it, lol.

Re: Orthodox Herbertarian Facebook Group

Posted: 23 Jul 2009 12:48
by SandChigger
Ooh, you scary when you talk dirty like that! :P :lol:

Re: Orthodox Herbertarian Facebook Group

Posted: 23 Jul 2009 12:52
by Freakzilla
Ampoliros wrote:Jerry sounds like a nice guy. I don't 'Hate' KJA as a tool. I hate what he's done to Dune. Perhaps we should mention (again) the fact that KJA chooses to ignore, rather than 'interact' with his audience, unless said audience is engaged in fellatio of his works or self.

I'm afraid the fanboys will always look upon Dune as a 'great book' and there in lies the problem, they don't hold anything as sacred.

is it okay to fuck another woman if she's wearing your wife's clothes? It reminds me of a story I heard on NPR where Snapper was asked by Walmart to make a cheaper version of their lawnmowers to sell at Walmart. Snapper said no, because their brand name was built on quality, and it would be counterproductive to their business model and brand name to make a cheap mower just to gain another distributor.


That's how I wrote the novel, wanting you to participate with the best of your own imagination. I did not aim for the lowest common denominator and 'write down" to anyone. You and I have a compact and my responsibility is to entertain you as richly as possible, always giving you as much extra as I can. I assume you are intelligent and will enlist your own imagination. You'll see that when you read the Dune excerpt and the other stories in this collection.
~Frank Herbert, Intro to Eye

Re: Orthodox Herbertarian Facebook Group

Posted: 23 Jul 2009 13:04
by Nekhrun
I would like to voice my opinion in the most caring and loving way I can express...

Jerry, you fucking tool, why don't you proof read your stupid messages before you hit send? :romance-grouphug:

Re: Orthodox Herbertarian Facebook Group

Posted: 23 Jul 2009 13:12
by SandChigger
How's this for a reply?

Hi, Jerry.

The last line of your message answers your question in the first: the fact that you can refer to the McDune books as "literature", on a par with Frank Herbert's original Dune novels, is why you don't understand my "hatred". And while that makes me sad, I figure I'll get over it.

Sorry if this disappoints you, but I can't see that you're anyone worth griefing with "future pain" (at least not here on Facebook) simply for having the stones to risk it by voicing your opinion. I can respect that, in a way.

Have a nice, if somewhat limited, life. :)

-Chig


OK ... so maybe I lied just a little...

Arrakeen Sand Chigger is, mmmmm, SO feeling the love right now. Hey, Kevin! Can I really have the shirt off your back?! :D

Re: Orthodox Herbertarian Facebook Group

Posted: 23 Jul 2009 13:16
by Freakzilla
SandChigger wrote:How's this for a reply?

Hi, Jerry.

The last line of your message answers your question in the first: the fact that you can refer to the McDune books as "literature", on a par with Frank Herbert's original Dune novels, is why you don't understand my "hatred". And while that makes me sad, I figure I'll get over it.

Sorry if this disappoints you, but I can't see that you're anyone worth griefing with "future pain" (at least not here on Facebook) simply for having the stones to risk it by voicing your opinion. I can respect that, in a way.

Have a nice, if somewhat limited, life. :)

-Chig


OK ... so maybe I lied just a little...

Arrakeen Sand Chigger is, mmmmm, SO feeling the love right now. Hey, Kevin! Can I really have the shirt off your back?! :D


Suprisingly nice. :P

Re: Orthodox Herbertarian Facebook Group

Posted: 23 Jul 2009 13:51
by GamePlayer
Literature? Love? Shirts off their backs? What planet is this guy living on? :shock:

Who knew KJA was really Mother Theresa masquerading as a hack pulp novelist? Diabolical! :roll:

"I'm a hustler homey, you a customer Jerry
Got some, dirt on my shoulder, could you brush it off for me?
" :P :lol:

Re: Orthodox Herbertarian Facebook Group

Posted: 23 Jul 2009 13:58
by Nekhrun
Freakzilla wrote:
SandChigger wrote:How's this for a reply?

Hi, Jerry.

The last line of your message answers your question in the first: the fact that you can refer to the McDune books as "literature", on a par with Frank Herbert's original Dune novels, is why you don't understand my "hatred". And while that makes me sad, I figure I'll get over it.

Sorry if this disappoints you, but I can't see that you're anyone worth griefing with "future pain" (at least not here on Facebook) simply for having the stones to risk it by voicing your opinion. I can respect that, in a way.

Have a nice, if somewhat limited, life. :)

-Chig


OK ... so maybe I lied just a little...

Arrakeen Sand Chigger is, mmmmm, SO feeling the love right now. Hey, Kevin! Can I really have the shirt off your back?! :D


Suprisingly nice. :P

SandChigger won't just give you the shirt of his back, he'll put his picture on it for you too!

Nice replies like that will just keep them writing. That can be fun too, but what more do we need to know about this guy other than the fact that he can't read or write?

Re: Orthodox Herbertarian Facebook Group

Posted: 23 Jul 2009 14:18
by SandChigger
Nekhrun wrote:SandChigger won't just give you the shirt of his back, he'll put his picture on it for you too!

:D Dude ... that is SO my new ad copy! :lol: (What's your size and where do I send the complimentary shirt? :P )

Nice replies like that will just keep them writing. That can be fun too, but what more do we need to know about this guy other than the fact that he can't read or write?

Hey, if he writes back, I can always just ignore him. ;)

Or not, as my mood takes me. :twisted:

But probably I'll just ignore him, because I can't see that he is anybody, really. I can't even see where I crossed his radar, since he doesn't appear to belong to any of my groups.... :?: :!: :?:

Re: Orthodox Herbertarian Facebook Group

Posted: 23 Jul 2009 15:16
by Omphalos
Mood is a thing for cattle! And love play!

Re: Jerry sent you a message on Facebook...

Posted: 23 Jul 2009 17:43
by SadisticCynic
SandChigger wrote:
Jerry sent you a message.

--------------------
Subject: Hating...

I dont know where the Genesis of your hate comes from but I will say this.Mocking,scoffing,and casting stones are really nothing more than a form of self expression which reveals a deep and bitter lack of understanding.It takes so much energy to hate,when love is standing right there waiting to be felt,and enjoyed.Does it feel good to hate? No.It also eats you up inside.

Now about Brian and Kevin.Regardless of how you may feel about someone besides Frank writing about the 'fictional' universe known as the Landsraad,and the characters within it,do you have to personally attack two very nice guys,whom would give you the shirt off their backs?

It is obvious that you dont know them,nor care too.

Im amazed at the things Ive read here,and disappointed.You are missing so much.Both in the form of literature,and friendship.

It is altogether too easy to hate,and an altogether sophomoric reality to engage in heinous E-thuggery.Would you say these things to their faces?Would you feel as convicted,and sure of your hate for these two guys If they were standing right before you?Sincerely.They have families,nice people,and live life just like you each day.They love,they laugh,they have feelings,and they are just trying to get along in the same world as you and I.Take some of that hate that drives you,and turn it inward for a bit.Do you need some sort of validation?Have you been ignored or overlooked?What is your motivation for your hate?

I am a serious fan of Frank Herbert,have been for many years,and love his work/art.I am a serious collector of all things Herbert.

While the writing styles of Frank,Brian, and Kevin are different,there are at least two real good reasons why it is a real Good thing that they are writing these books.

One is that it is enjoyable to continue to experience the world of Dune and all its wonders.

Two is that you you/we have an opportunity to engage in, and become a part of this vast and growing 'fictional' universe and it is fun.

Interaction is about and for sharing opinions and beliefs,we can choose to be nice,or mean in our expression of those opinions.How we choose to do so says much about our character.

I hope in the future that you would reconsider the nature of your opinions,and what you are trying to say,and achieve.

I dont expect to change your opinion about Brian and Kevins work,or even gain your respect,in fact Im quite sure that Im buying myself some future pain by writing to you today,but Its worth sharing what I believe,and asking you the question can we conduct ourselves with dignity,respect,and intelligence when expressing our opinions?

We all deserve that much.

Thanks for taking the time to read this.

Lets enjoy the literature while we can.

Jerry


"...in fact Im quite sure that Im buying myself some future pain by writing to you today..."

Welcome to my world. :twisted:


Um, what universe is he talking about? :?
Misunderstanding Dune, that sounds familiar... (and why is fictional in inverted commas?)

Re: Orthodox Herbertarian Facebook Group

Posted: 23 Jul 2009 18:08
by SandRider
yes, Jerry, I would say all those mean, nasty, hateful things
to both of the Tools' faces. In a way, I have, sending many,
many, many, many, nasty emails directed to both of them &
the Lackey Merritt.

I've said it before, I'll say it again :
Kevin J. Anderson just needs his bitch-ass whipped
real good once or twice. (Brian, not so much. He's too
pathetic.)(Merritt needs an old-fashioned Texas stomp-
down.)

wow. such bitter anger & violent thoughts. why,
O SandRider, why ?

"frustration" - nothing can be done with words to convince
these assholes, or the asshole publishers, that the new books
are an affront to Frank and should be stopped, pulled from the
shelves and burned. Dipshits like you, Jerry, are the reason
why. (so go fuck yourself, too. asshat.)

when an intolerable situation reaches apex with no peaceful
solution apparent, somebody always get their ass whipped ...

welcome to the human race.
tool.