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    Postby SandChigger » 02 Mar 2008 21:05

    Nekhrun wrote:I can easily see that coming up in the future. We'll have to debate some new generation of preeks who think we have it all wrong because what we say doesn't jive with the KJA books.

    Haven't we been doing that already, tho? :(
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    Postby Nekhrun » 02 Mar 2008 22:03

    SandChigger wrote:
    Nekhrun wrote:I can easily see that coming up in the future. We'll have to debate some new generation of preeks who think we have it all wrong because what we say doesn't jive with the KJA books.

    Haven't we been doing that already, tho? :(

    But at least we currently have a solid chunk of Dune-time to work with that until now has been unmolested. Once these Interquels come out, they're going to twist and bastardize everything FH wrote.
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    Postby Omphalos » 02 Mar 2008 22:05

    I cant wait for them to put out "re-edited" versions of the original six books, so as to clear up any "mistakes" FH made and to clarify his "dense and hard to understand" prose? Should make all my hardbacks skyrocket in value.
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    Postby SandChigger » 02 Mar 2008 23:21

    Omphalos wrote:I cant wait for them to put out "re-edited" versions of the original six books, so as to clear up any "mistakes" FH made and to clarify his "dense and hard to understand" prose?

    This is a real fear that I've voiced before. I would hope that there would be enough people on the HLP board who would oppose it...but then again, they've been unbelievably complicit with what's happened so far. Fortunately Kevin doesn't have voting rights. So far as we know. (Or are Brian's really Kevin voting by proxy?)

    The way they slipped that new material into the paperbacks of Grunters without mention shows that they're not to be trusted. All new editions of the book should be scrutinized, really.
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    Postby Rakis » 03 Mar 2008 00:04

    Nekhrun wrote:
    Omphalos wrote:These new books truly will have all the "good parts" reinstated, and will fix FH's "mistakes."
    I can't even tell what's a FH mistake/inconsistency and what isn't because it's all so complicated. You guys must just say he's a good writer because even you don't know what he's saying, so he must be smart.



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    Postby Nekhrun » 03 Mar 2008 08:02

    Maybe KJA will take Byron's idea over and write his Dune for Children (not Children of Dune) books which will then become the new standard for the series.
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    Postby SandChigger » 03 Mar 2008 09:29

    Oh.

    I was under the impression that they have been knocking off the "Dune for Children" series these last ten years.

    Silly me. ;)
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    Postby Robspierre » 03 Mar 2008 16:13

    SandChigger wrote:Oh.

    I was under the impression that they have been knocking off the "Dune for Children" series these last ten years.

    Silly me. ;)


    No, Dune For Children would you know, have morals and valuable lessons not nerd PrOn.

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    Postby Seraphan » 05 Jul 2008 15:06

    God no! can you imagine B&K warping the minds of little children with their writting? I mean, i can handle fan fiction but a 8 or 9 year old? what they did with HoD and SoD is criminal but Dune for children is downright crimes against humanity.
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    Postby orald » 06 Jul 2008 10:03

    I hate kids anyway. Let 'em do it! :twisted:
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    Postby Omphalos » 06 Jul 2008 14:48

    SandChigger wrote:Oh.

    I was under the impression that they have been knocking off the "Dune for Children" series these last ten years.

    Silly me. ;)


    Even children know its boring, stupid crap.
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    Postby SandChigger » 06 Jul 2008 18:43

    Maybe smart children like yours.

    But definitely not the bigger, dumber children in their teens and early twenties we seem to keep running into. :wink:
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    Postby Ampoliros » 27 Aug 2008 01:14

    Rakis wrote:
    Nekhrun wrote:
    Omphalos wrote:These new books truly will have all the "good parts" reinstated, and will fix FH's "mistakes."
    I can't even tell what's a FH mistake/inconsistency and what isn't because it's all so complicated. You guys must just say he's a good writer because even you don't know what he's saying, so he must be smart.



    Thank Gawd, KJA is writing Dune for dummies... :P


    No, Dune for dummies would actually seek to explain the major points that Frank was trying to make and seek to make the book easier to digest.

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    Postby Rakis » 28 Aug 2008 23:09

    Ampoliros wrote:
    Rakis wrote:
    Nekhrun wrote:
    Omphalos wrote:These new books truly will have all the "good parts" reinstated, and will fix FH's "mistakes."
    I can't even tell what's a FH mistake/inconsistency and what isn't because it's all so complicated. You guys must just say he's a good writer because even you don't know what he's saying, so he must be smart.



    Thank Gawd, KJA is writing Dune for dummies... :P


    No, Dune for dummies would actually seek to explain the major points that Frank was trying to make and seek to make the book easier to digest.

    KJA is writing Dune by Dummies


    :lol:

    Yes, but i was talking about preeks... :wink:
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    Postby Ampoliros » 29 Aug 2008 13:42

    Preeks aren't dumb, they are uncultured. The fact that they are uncultured and don't seek to rectify that makes them dumb. oops Socretian(sp?) logic.
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    Postby SandChigger » 29 Aug 2008 14:19

    Ahp.

    As I like to say, everyone is born ignorant. Only the stupid choose to remain that way. :D
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    Postby Tyrant » 29 Aug 2008 18:03

    SandChigger wrote:Ahp.

    As I like to say, everyone is born ignorant. Only the stupid choose to remain that way. :D


    What is he talking about?? :wink:
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    Postby SandChigger » 29 Aug 2008 19:51

    :shock: :? :P :lol:
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    Postby Rakis » 29 Aug 2008 23:31

    SandChigger wrote:Ahp.

    As I like to say, everyone is born ignorant. Only the stupid choose to remain that way. :D


    RAmen...
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    Postby Ampoliros » 30 Aug 2008 00:43

    SandChigger wrote:Ahp.

    As I like to say, everyone is born ignorant. Only the stupid choose to remain that way. :D


    Ahp? You mean Amp? Kinda ironic of you to misspell my name when your talking about ignorance. :wink: Bear hugs for my Chigger!
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    Postby SandChigger » 30 Aug 2008 03:21

    :?

    No, I meant ahp.

    As in "Ahp, that it may well be, ahp."

    I just repeat these things. Doesn't mean I understand 'em! :D
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    Postby orald » 30 Aug 2008 05:57

    Nonsense. Most of those preeks are born dumb- that is, even if you tried to culture them they still wouldn't get past a certain low level.

    I'm sometimes amazed at how dumb most people are though, and it's not that I'm that much of a genius(well, I am, I'm just putting this humble nonsense here so no one would have any claim afterwards :wink: ), just above average.
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    Postby Rakis » 30 Aug 2008 22:01

    SandChigger wrote::?

    No, I meant ahp.

    As in "Ahp, that it may well be, ahp."

    I just repeat these things. Doesn't mean I understand 'em! :D


    A balanced, sophisticated, and pointed explanation... :P
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