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    The Book of Mars

    Postby Mr. Teg » 23 May 2009 00:53

    The Book of Mars edited by Willis E McNelly and introduction by Isaac Asimov
    1971 Doubleday and 1976 Orbit

    1976 Orbit Edition
    pgs 273-291
    Carthage by Frank Herbert

    Short stories and exerpts about Mars ranging from Bradbury to Lester Del Rey including even McNelly.
    The exerpt from A Princess of Mars was very interesting!
    One of the sources for the Fremen?
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    Re: The Book of Mars

    Postby Omphalos » 23 May 2009 11:59

    Absolutely the Tharks were a source of inspiration for the Fremen. A tough, warrior race that chose their leaders by attrition and lived in natural environments despite their access to high technology.

    But I think you are actually talking about a book called Mars, We Love You, edited by McNelly and Jane Hipolito? That was published in '71, involves McNelly, published that poem and had an introduction by Asimov.
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    Re: The Book of Mars

    Postby Mr. Teg » 23 May 2009 14:54

    Omphalos wrote:Absolutely the Tharks were a source of inspiration for the Fremen. A tough, warrior race that chose their leaders by attrition and lived in natural environments despite their access to high technology.

    But I think you are actually talking about a book called Mars, We Love You, edited by McNelly and Jane Hipolito? That was published in '71, involves McNelly, published that poem and had an introduction by Asimov.


    The 1971 edition was titled Mars, We Love You, but the 1976 edition apparently was retitled The Book of Mars (with the previously titled listed under the copyright and different publisher). I don't have the 1971 edition so don't know if they added anything. Nice book.
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    Re: The Book of Mars

    Postby Omphalos » 23 May 2009 17:08

    Might be the same book. ISFbd has no separate listing for The Book of Mars, and Hypollito has no separate entry save for Mara We Love You

    http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?ANCL00214
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    Re: The Book of Mars

    Postby Mr. Teg » 23 May 2009 17:40

    The Book of Mars
    Tales of Mars, Men and Martians
    Edited by
    Jane Hipolito and Willis E McNelly
    With Introduction by Issac Asimov

    An Orbit Book

    First Published in the United States in 1971 by Doubleday & Company Inc under the title MARS, WE LOVE YOU

    First Orbit Edition 1976
    published by Futura Publications Limited
    Copyright C Jane Hipolito and Willis E McNelly 1971
    Copyright C Doubleday & Company, Inc 1971

    ISBN 0-8600-7893-0
    Printed in Great Britain by Richard Clay (The Chaucer Press) Ltd,
    Bungay, Suffolk

    Futura Publications Limited
    Warner Road, London SE5
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    Re: The Book of Mars

    Postby Mr. Teg » 23 May 2009 17:44

    Foreword
    Introduction
    Report on Canali
    Mars as the Abode of Life
    War of the Worlds
    A Princess of Mars
    A Martian Odyssey
    The Embassy
    Dark Mission
    Lost Art
    The Cave
    Expedition
    Loophole
    Catch that Martian
    Omnilingual
    The Lost City of Mars
    One Step from Earth
    Carthage: Reflections of a Martian by Frank Herbert
    Soft Landing
    Earthbound
    In Lonely Lands
    World of the Wars
    Exploration
    Double Star
    Linguistic Relativity in Middle High Martian
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    Re: The Book of Mars

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    Re: The Book of Mars

    Postby DuneFishUK » 26 May 2009 14:59

    I was listening to a radio version of The Embassy at work the other day.

    [ Hehey - just Abebooks'ed copy of this one for 63p :) ]
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    Re: The Book of Mars

    Postby Mr. Teg » 22 Jan 2013 02:35

    I just glanced through the last piece in this collection titled, "Linguistic Relativity in Middle High Martian" by McNelly.

    The main topic was the word grok introduced by Heinlein in Stranger in a Strange Land 1961 ( Dune 1965)


    "Grok means life, as a logical extension of it's meaning to drink...the water ceremony is the sole sacrament: "share water, drink deep, never thirst."

    "Heinlein carries the religious message even further by advancing the thoroughly Martian concept of ritual cannibalism. When a Martian groks death, he "discorporates," and the surviving water brothers eat the remains..."
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