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    Ranking FH's Other Books

    Postby Cro-Mags » 23 Jun 2010 11:59

    Hi all, just stumbled upon this forum today.

    Anyway, I've had enough of those Dune spin-offs (that's a whole 'nother thread), and I'm trying to scratch that itch with F.H.'s non-Dune material. I've read the Dosadi Experiment and Santaroga Barrier and enjoyed both. Reading Destination : Void now and I'll be honest, I'm finding it a little too - clinical and technical. There's a great used book store near me that has them all, but now that I'm slogging through D:V I find myself wondering if I'm not missing out by grabbing something else instead.

    I'm wondering from you folks what you'd consider his Top 5 non-Dune books. I'm not looking for a hard ranking per se, just a sense of what you think I should seek out next that I haven't already.

    Any help is appreciated. My apologies if you covered this in another thread, I couldn't see anything similar.
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    Re: Ranking FH's Other Books

    Postby Freakzilla » 23 Jun 2010 12:03

    Cro-Mags wrote:Reading Destination : Void now and I'll be honest, I'm finding it a little too - clinical and technical.


    There is a lot of technobable but the ending makes it all worthwhile.
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    Re: Ranking FH's Other Books

    Postby Cro-Mags » 23 Jun 2010 12:14

    I don't necessarily mind technobabble, but it is very heavy in this book, and a lot of it is dated (references to analog technology and relays and whatnot - I'm willing to accept it's a product of it's era, but it can detract at points). I'm sticking with it, but I keep wondering if I'm not missing out on something better from him.

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    Re: Ranking FH's Other Books

    Postby SandChigger » 23 Jun 2010 12:20

    Don't worry, there's going to be a new edition in a few years with all the technobabble updated and the gaps filled in.

    It will be called Destination: UltraVoid. ;)
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    Re: Ranking FH's Other Books

    Postby A Thing of Eternity » 23 Jun 2010 12:21

    Welcome.

    The top 5 non Dune books:

    First 3 would be the "sequels" to D:V (really far removed from D:V's style, and have Bill Ransom as a coauthor, in fact the last book was written mostly by Bill after FH died).

    Then the 2 ConSentiency books, Whipping Star and Dosadi Experiment.
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    Re: Ranking FH's Other Books

    Postby Lundse » 23 Jun 2010 12:33

    Cro-Mags wrote:I'm wondering from you folks what you'd consider his Top 5 non-Dune books.


    Welcome!

    I'll bite:
    The White Plague
    The Santaroga Barrier
    Destination: Void
    The Jesus Incident
    The Dragon in the Sea


    Not ranked or anything...
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    Re: Ranking FH's Other Books

    Postby Freakzilla » 23 Jun 2010 12:37

    Cro-Mags wrote:I don't necessarily mind technobabble, but it is very heavy in this book, and a lot of it is dated (references to analog technology and relays and whatnot - I'm willing to accept it's a product of it's era, but it can detract at points). I'm sticking with it, but I keep wondering if I'm not missing out on something better from him.

    BTW nice av.


    Relays are still heavily used today... just not in computers. Keep in mind, they were building from scratch with what was available.
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    Re: Ranking FH's Other Books

    Postby lotek » 23 Jun 2010 12:42

    Whipping Star is my personal favourite
    Spice is the worm's gonads.
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    Re: Ranking FH's Other Books

    Postby Serkanner » 23 Jun 2010 13:50

    My favourite non-Dune Frank Herbert novels are (no specific order):

    The Jesus incident
    Destination: Void
    The White Plague
    The eyes of Heisenberg
    The Godmakers
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    Re: Ranking FH's Other Books

    Postby Omphalos » 23 Jun 2010 23:58

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    Re: Ranking FH's Other Books

    Postby Freakzilla » 24 Jun 2010 00:04



    Is it me or are most of the cover images stretched vertically? The first one and the last few look OK.
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    Re: Ranking FH's Other Books

    Postby SandChigger » 24 Jun 2010 00:06

    Whoa. :shock:

    That's what they would look like if you were viewing them in close orbit around a black hole. :P
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    Re: Ranking FH's Other Books

    Postby Omphalos » 24 Jun 2010 00:20

    You guys using MSIE? Catch a clue and ditch that bitch. Firefox is the way of the future.
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    Re: Ranking FH's Other Books

    Postby Freakzilla » 24 Jun 2010 00:22

    Google chrome 5.0.375.70
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    Re: Ranking FH's Other Books

    Postby Omphalos » 24 Jun 2010 00:24

    Google Chrome does the same thing for me. So that one should be ditched too. :P
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    Re: Ranking FH's Other Books

    Postby Freakzilla » 24 Jun 2010 00:27

    It looks good in IE. :D
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    Re: Ranking FH's Other Books

    Postby Omphalos » 24 Jun 2010 00:28

    Freakzilla wrote:It looks good in IE. :D


    MSIE screws up all other things, especially fonts and CSS pages.
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    Re: Ranking FH's Other Books

    Postby SandChigger » 24 Jun 2010 03:43

    They're super-stretched in Safari, too. :P
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    Re: Ranking FH's Other Books

    Postby Cro-Mags » 24 Jun 2010 11:39

    Thanks for the feedback.

    I have to admit, the lazy part of me was wishing for consensus ("yes, this is our officially sanctioned Top 5"), but I appreciate the fact that none of you listed the same 5 even more, since it tells me you guys are more critical and not just a hive-mind.

    BTW everything looks fine in Netscape Navigator. :oops:
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    Re: Ranking FH's Other Books

    Postby Freakzilla » 24 Jun 2010 11:40

    Cro-Mags wrote:...it tells me you guys are more critical and not just a hive-mind.


    We're all Sandchigger's sock puppets, he's just very creative and thorough. :wink:
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    Re: Ranking FH's Other Books

    Postby SandChigger » 24 Jun 2010 11:47

    Yes, I'm MUCH MORE than just a pretty face...

    INCOMING!!! :angry-screaming:

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    Re: Ranking FH's Other Books

    Postby Freakzilla » 24 Jun 2010 11:50

    My eyes! Where's that spoon...
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    Re: Ranking FH's Other Books

    Postby inhuien » 24 Jun 2010 12:36

    I can not see what I do not want to see. I can not see what I do not want to see. I can not see what I do not want to see. I can not see what I do not want to see. I can not see what I do not want to see. I can not see what I do not want to see.

    I did however see you're cover thumbnails, teeny small but correctly formed, Opera 10.53.
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    Re: Ranking FH's Other Books

    Postby Serkanner » 24 Jun 2010 13:17

    I need medicine ... NOW!

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    .. That's better.
    "... the mystery of life isn't a problem to solve but a reality to experience."

    “There is no escape—we pay for the violence of our ancestors.”

    Sandrider: "Keith went to Bobo's for a weekend of drinking, watched some DVDs,
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    Re: Ranking FH's Other Books

    Postby DuneFishUK » 24 Jun 2010 13:30

    Thanks Serkanner - good save :shock:

    Oh and, no love for Hellstrom?
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