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High-Opp

Postby Fishreader » 03 Apr 2012 11:09

This is a first impression of this apparently forgotten oldie.

I have to say I' m sufficiently intrigued by the story plot which follows the fall from grace of a senior public officer in a world controlled by opinion polls. Suffice it to say, plans within plans start to unfold and Daniel Movius, Ex-Senior Liaitor, is in the middle of it all.

What I particulary like is that this short story seems to be a spin-off of sorts of the Whipping Star/Dosadi Experiment novels which I very much like. It is not a Consentiency novel it itself but there are enough common elements to warrantee that Consentiency fans are hooked, for example the fact that the Low-Opps live in Warrens, all government agencies are called Bureaus, e.g.Bu-Psych (see BuSab) and semantics also plays a part.

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Re: High-Opp

Postby Freakzilla » 03 Apr 2012 11:14

SO, The Hack hasn't totally trashed it?
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Re: High-Opp

Postby lotek » 03 Apr 2012 11:18

he can do that ? I mean not fuck up anything he touches ?
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Postby Freakzilla » 03 Apr 2012 11:21

That IS hard to believe.
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Re: High-Opp

Postby lotek » 03 Apr 2012 11:29

I'd love to say stranger things have happened, but we all know they didn't.
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Re: High-Opp

Postby DuneFishUK » 03 Apr 2012 15:49

Hopefully he fucked up fucking it up.

Too busy watching crap DVDs to change anything, he probably missed most of the typos too.

:)

(If he'd changed anything he would have tweeted about how he was a great literary historian)

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Re: High-Opp

Postby lotek » 05 Apr 2012 06:52

Good point.
I guess it's still worth at least the effort to find out what the score is on this one.

Whipping Star is one of my favourite novels and I'd be happy to go back to the Consentiency again, but I'm starting to get a little wary of kjarse's manners now...
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Re: High-Opp

Postby Ampoliros » 05 Apr 2012 18:53

I don't care if all he did was fill in the punctuation. I won't support any HLP/KJA venture on principal. It is fouled simply by association with the hack.
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Postby Omphalos » 05 Apr 2012 22:28

Fishreader wrote:This is a first impression of this apparently forgotten oldie.

I have to say I' m sufficiently intrigued by the story plot which follows the fall from grace of a senior public officer in a world controlled by opinion polls. Suffice it to say, plans within plans start to unfold and Daniel Movius, Ex-Senior Liaitor, is in the middle of it all.

What I particulary like is that this short story seems to be a spin-off of sorts of the Whipping Star/Dosadi Experiment novels which I very much like. It is not a Consentiency novel it itself but there are enough common elements to warrantee that Consentiency fans are hooked, for example the fact that the Low-Opps live in Warrens, all government agencies are called Bureaus, e.g.Bu-Psych (see BuSab) and semantics also plays a part.


Several f his shrt stories use those things, actually.

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Re: High-Opp

Postby Freakzilla » 06 Apr 2012 01:04

Ampoliros wrote:I don't care if all he did was fill in the punctuation. I won't support any HLP/KJA venture on principal. It is fouled simply by association with the hack.


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Re: High-Opp

Postby ULFsurfer » 06 Apr 2012 20:09

I won't touch nor acknowledge this either, despite my love for Whipping/Dosadi

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Postby Mr. Teg » 01 May 2012 21:30

Anybody read yet?
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Re: High-Opp

Postby Robspierre » 02 May 2012 22:32

Mr. Teg wrote:Anybody read yet?


We refuse to pay money ;)

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Re: High-Opp

Postby Mr. Teg » 03 May 2012 02:08

Robspierre wrote:
Mr. Teg wrote:Anybody read yet?


We refuse to pay money ;)

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Oh, wait...
No hard copy only ebook?
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Re: High-Opp

Postby Robspierre » 04 May 2012 00:12

Yep, only ebook.

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Re: High-Opp

Postby ULFsurfer » 04 May 2012 09:44

No, it does exist as paperback too. ISBN 1614750386

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Postby Mr. Teg » 04 May 2012 19:45

ULFsurfer wrote:No, it does exist as paperback too. ISBN 1614750386


Looks like the "paperback" is published by Buttfire Duress, but also sold on Amazon.
So, used copies should be available soon.
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Re: High-Opp

Postby DuneFishUK » 06 May 2012 12:04

Print on demand surely?

If there was any amount of money in releasing this they would have gone through Tor (a la Santaroga, Hellstrom, Whipping etc etc).

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Re: High-Opp

Postby Freakzilla » 06 May 2012 22:27

Maybe this is a sign that Tor is giving up on him?
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Re: High-Opp

Postby D Pope » 07 May 2012 07:11

I disagree;
I think he's trying to start publishing-
he's gotten popular enough to believe he's worth a larger share and the collaboration train is running out of gravy.
If e-publishing takes off in any realistic way, steve will be an award winning nominee media mogul.


...the fuckers got a good shot at it too...
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edit; but yeah, I don't think Tor likes him
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Re: High-Opp

Postby DuneFishUK » 07 May 2012 08:27

If you look at the kind of book he's putting out, I can't imagine them selling anywhere near enough to justify the up front costs of a real paper run.

He has got high hopes, and you're right, he might even succeed - He has a massive back catalogue nobody else wants to print (suddenly it all makes sense!), Brian has his own back-catalogue and also keeps producing unsellable content... and he's got mate's rates access to Frank Herbert's works - The Pandora books a brilliant, but I doubt they shift much volume, although with near-zero-costs digital distribution, that doesn't really matter.

But we won't be seeing old Dune or NuDune released by him any time soon. Just enough money left there for everyone involved to stay interested... until they start forcing so called editors onto him. :o

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Re: High-Opp

Postby Hunchback Jack » 09 May 2012 00:57

"The sky calls to us. If we do not destroy ourselves, we will one day venture to the stars."
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I'm still very proud of The Quarry but … let's face it; in the end the real best way to sign off would have been with a great big rollicking Culture novel.
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Re: High-Opp

Postby Freakzilla » 09 May 2012 05:21

Hunchback Jack wrote:This is interesting:

http://www.kindleboards.com/index.php?topic=107826.0

HBJ


$10.79 in paperback for Prime members??? WTF?
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Re: High-Opp

Postby Freakzilla » 09 May 2012 16:43

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Re: High-Opp

Postby Hunchback Jack » 11 May 2012 03:40

:lol:

Very nice.

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