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    Re: Afghanistan

    Postby A Thing of Eternity » 04 Jan 2011 12:18

    Baraka Bryan wrote:
    A Thing of Eternity wrote: :lol: I always forget that up here in Canada conservative doesn't necessarily mean completely right-wing! I'm with you on this, regulations have their places.

    Part of my issue with regulations actually comes from something I learned from FH in Dosadi Experiment. They're talking about law at one point, and saying how it's a serious problem when people try to make things better by adding more and more laws, rather than removing the useless ones and fixing the existing ones. I think that applies perfectly to regulations, in certain situations we seem to heap them on for no real reason, and that makes people leary of them in general, when really they shouldn't be complaining about regulations - they should be complaining about their implimentations.

    It's funny because I call myself "balanced" between socialism and capitalism rather than saying "center" - because I'm not really center, I've got one foot closer to each extreme. Capitalism does certain things extremely well, so we should let it do it's thing (read: let big companies collapse if they can't keep themselves going, we're only delaying the inevitable), and on the other hand, capitalism should never be allowed anywhere near certain things (police force).
    hey now, I'm right-wing... unabashedly so... but I also see space for pragmatism and regulation where safety and overal economic health is concerned. 100% agree on letting companies die. the auto bailouts just piss me off.

    Dear gods, I really thought that was going to get you going! I think pot should be exactly on the level of alcohol, would make it harder for kids to get, take a chunk out of organized crime, and make a frakken boatload of tax money for us to spend on fun shit.

    With prostitution it's more about protecting the prostitutes for me, but the tax dollars would be nice and could be funneled towards fighting human slaver in Canada and the child sex trade.


    or funneled towards paying down the debt ;)


    Always a high priority for sure, but it should be split between the two until the debt's paid off, then back to the good stuff. If we legalized and taxed both of those the debt would be gone in no time at all anyways.
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    Re: Afghanistan

    Postby A Thing of Eternity » 05 Jan 2011 14:31

    Baraka Bryan wrote:
    A Thing of Eternity wrote:Always a high priority for sure, but it should be split between the two until the debt's paid off, then back to the good stuff. If we legalized and taxed both of those the debt would be gone in no time at all anyways.


    probably true. What I'd like to hear is how you'd plan to tax prostitution... i mean pot makes sense if you set it up like a beer store or regulate it like cigarettes... it's a good to be exchanged.. but with prostitution, what do you do, get them to issue receipts? have stores where they can sift through the inventory? :P I dont think legalization would make much of a difference, because only state sanctioned and taxed prostitution would be legal, the others would be illicit, and you'd simply have a 2-tiered system, with the cheaper option being preferred. much easier to run a prostitution ring underground than even a grow op.



    It would have to be a brothel system, and escort services (which are already a legal and taxable form of prostitution) and yes you'd still end up with illegal prostitution - but you're totally underestimating how much customers would be willing to pay in order to not be breaking the law, and to have no risk of being exposed by law enforcement (because they're not breaking the law that's one less way to have everyone in your life find out). People would pay huge bucks for that.

    Plus, it's similar to pot, take out the pimps/dealers and you take out a huge chunk of the price. With the pimp's cut gone, legal prostitutes may very well be able to compete dollar for dollar with the illegal ones even with the taxes included.

    I think it would work extremely well.
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    Re: Afghanistan

    Postby D Pope » 05 Jan 2011 16:08

    Baraka Bryan wrote:What I'd like to hear is how you'd plan to tax prostitution...

    Why would it be any different than any other independant contractor?
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    Re: Afghanistan

    Postby A Thing of Eternity » 05 Jan 2011 17:38

    Baraka Bryan wrote:
    A Thing of Eternity wrote:
    Baraka Bryan wrote:
    A Thing of Eternity wrote:Always a high priority for sure, but it should be split between the two until the debt's paid off, then back to the good stuff. If we legalized and taxed both of those the debt would be gone in no time at all anyways.


    probably true. What I'd like to hear is how you'd plan to tax prostitution... i mean pot makes sense if you set it up like a beer store or regulate it like cigarettes... it's a good to be exchanged.. but with prostitution, what do you do, get them to issue receipts? have stores where they can sift through the inventory? :P I dont think legalization would make much of a difference, because only state sanctioned and taxed prostitution would be legal, the others would be illicit, and you'd simply have a 2-tiered system, with the cheaper option being preferred. much easier to run a prostitution ring underground than even a grow op.



    It would have to be a brothel system, and escort services (which are already a legal and taxable form of prostitution) and yes you'd still end up with illegal prostitution - but you're totally underestimating how much customers would be willing to pay in order to not be breaking the law, and to have no risk of being exposed by law enforcement (because they're not breaking the law that's one less way to have everyone in your life find out). People would pay huge bucks for that.

    Plus, it's similar to pot, take out the pimps/dealers and you take out a huge chunk of the price. With the pimp's cut gone, legal prostitutes may very well be able to compete dollar for dollar with the illegal ones even with the taxes included.

    I think it would work extremely well.


    fair enough. guess it would work.


    The big thing for me is taking all the currently wasted resources (not really wasted, but let's say useless instead) and directing them towards child prostitution and slavery. Those two things should be stomped on so hard that people can't even find the pieces of the bodies of people convicted of these offenses.

    I don't really see how it's different than porn anyways. Either way someone is being paid to have sex, the only difference is who's paying, one of the people having sex, or someone watching it. Seems goofy.
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    Re: Afghanistan

    Postby SandRider » 06 Jan 2011 00:11

    http://www.defense.gov/releases/release ... seid=14173
    IMMEDIATE RELEASE No. 001-11
    January 02, 2011
    DOD Identifies Army Casualty

    The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Enduring Freedom.

    Sgt. Michael J. Beckerman, 25, of Ste. Genevieve, Mo., died Dec. 31 in Kandahar province, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when insurgents attacked his unit with an improvised explosive device. He was assigned to 2nd Brigade Support Troop Battalion, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault), Fort Campbell, Ky.

    For more information, the media may contact the Fort Campbell public affairs office at 270-798-3025.


    http://www.defense.gov/releases/release ... seid=14174
    IMMEDIATE RELEASE No. 003-11
    January 03, 2011
    DOD Identifies Marine Casualty

    The Department of Defense announced today the death of a Marine who was supporting Operation Enduring Freedom.

    Lance Cpl. Maung P. Htaik, 20, of Hagerstown, Md., died Jan. 1 while conducting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 9th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.

    For additional background information on this Marine, news media representatives may contact the 2nd Marine Division public affairs office at 910-451-7200 or http://www.marines.mil/unit/2ndmardiv/P ... fault.aspx .


    http://www.defense.gov/releases/release ... seid=14175
    IMMEDIATE RELEASE No. 004-11
    January 03, 2011
    DOD Identifies Marine Casualty

    The Department of Defense announced today the death of a Marine who was supporting Operation Enduring Freedom.

    Cpl. Jacob A. Tate, 21, of Columbus, Ohio, died Jan. 2 while conducting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 9th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.

    For additional background information on this Marine, news media representatives may contact the 2nd Marine Division public affairs office at 910-378-5920 or http://www.marines.mil/unit/2ndmardiv/P ... fault.aspx.

    http://www.defense.gov/releases/release ... seid=14176
    IMMEDIATE RELEASE No. 007-10
    January 05, 2011
    National Guard (In Federal Status) and Reserve Activated as of January 04, 2011

    This week the Army, Navy, Marine Corps and Coast Guard announced a decrease in activated reservists while the Air Force announced an increase. The net collective result is 733 fewer reservists activated than last week.

    At any given time, services may activate some units and individuals while deactivating others, making it possible for these figures to either increase or decrease. The total number currently on active duty from the Army National Guard and Army Reserve is 71,003; Navy Reserve, 5,707; Air National Guard and Air Force Reserve, 8,819; Marine Corps Reserve, 5,051; and the Coast Guard Reserve, 769. This brings the total National Guard and Reserve personnel who have been activated to 91,349, including both units and individual augmentees.

    A cumulative roster of all National Guard and Reserve personnel who are currently activated may be found on line at http://www.defense.gov/news/d20110104ngr.pdf .




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