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    FBI closes down Megaupload

    Postby lotek » 20 Jan 2012 15:38

    http://hoowstuffworks.blogspot.com/2012 ... -down.html

    What happened there ?

    This is just unbelievable !
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    Re: FBI closes down Megaupload

    Postby Mandy » 20 Jan 2012 16:03

    This makes the SOPA/PIPA thing pointless. Our government already had the tools to take down websites. Anonymous is on the warpath.
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    Re: FBI closes down Megaupload

    Postby lotek » 20 Jan 2012 16:15

    I've seen that yes...
    While I agree there were copyright breaches on MU, what the FBI did looks more like they're using a handgun against a swarm, and leads me to believe they have no clue what they're dealing with.

    They could start their rigmarole because part of the MU servers were on american soil, but what are they going to do for I dunno Chinese servers for example ?

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    Re: FBI closes down Megaupload

    Postby Freakzilla » 20 Jan 2012 16:38

    Senate and House leaders said Friday they will put off further action on online piracy legislation after a storm of protest over the measure.

    http://news.yahoo.com/us-senate-chief-p ... 34234.html
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    Re: FBI closes down Megaupload

    Postby Serkanner » 20 Jan 2012 19:58

    Freakzilla wrote:Senate and House leaders said Friday they will put off further action on online piracy legislation after a storm of protest over the measure.

    http://news.yahoo.com/us-senate-chief-p ... 34234.html


    I say BOOOOOH!!!! to online piracy legislation protest measured storms that put me out of action.
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    Re: FBI closes down Megaupload

    Postby lotek » 20 Jan 2012 20:13

    Another Golden Path of Words ?
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    Re: FBI closes down Megaupload

    Postby Serkanner » 20 Jan 2012 20:20

    lotek wrote:Another Golden Path of Words ?


    Some say it's Golden ... others say it's mumbo-jumbo. I say ...words are the epiphany of unspoken feelings.
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    Re: FBI closes down Megaupload

    Postby lotek » 20 Jan 2012 20:21

    Good meds then ?
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    Re: FBI closes down Megaupload

    Postby Serkanner » 20 Jan 2012 21:19

    lotek wrote:Good meds then ?
    :mrgreen:


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    Re: FBI closes down Megaupload

    Postby Drunken Idaho » 21 Jan 2012 03:40

    I was pretty pissed off about this at first, seeing as how I stored files on there for professional reasons and never pirated a thing. Why shut down a fertilizer company and arrest its employees because some twisted individuals used it for homemade explosives, right? But it turns out the staff there not only knew about pirated content (duh), but also shared it with one another. This is according to some internal emails acquired, apparently. Also, these guys apparently flaunted their fortune quite a bit. Dozens of Benz's and sports cars between the 7 arrested, many of which had license plates like "GOD," "STONED," "BAD," and perhaps all-too-prophetically, "GUILTY."

    Mandy wrote:Anonymous is on the warpath.


    Yep, naturally, but did you hear about this? Turns out Anons tricked thousands into unwittingly DDoS-ing the Department of Justice, FBI, Whitehouse, Universal Music Group & many others:

    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/01/anons-rickroll-botnet/

    Basically, a brand-new Javascript-based web-version of their LOIC software, used to bombard & thusly disable websites with traffic, was deployed in the form of a benign-looking link through social media. Little did users know that their computer would then be used to fire data at whatever target Anons please. The problem I have with this, is that over the last year people were arrested & charged for Anonymous-related LOIC attacks on private entities. It turns out LOIC had serious security flaws, so this is their way of adapting I suppose. This tells me that Anonymous both A) endangered innocent bystanders with risk of incarceration, and B) covered their own asses by being able to point to this and say "I was an innocent bystander!" if caught.

    I usually tend to defend most of Anonymous' actions, after all DDoS is the digital equivalent of a sit-in protest, and causes not much more than headaches for IT departments at best, and embarrassing news stories at worst. But I think they took it too far in this case, though I shouldn't be surprised; Anons are tricky like that. The last paragraph in this Gawker article nails it though:

    ...It may greatly increase the effectiveness of today's attacks, but it also renders them largely meaningless. Anonymous' previous attacks had what political power they had because they were acts of conscious protest; participants knew what they were getting into.


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    Re: FBI closes down Megaupload

    Postby lotek » 21 Jan 2012 10:51

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/ ... tid=pm_pop

    Even before it was shut down, Mega­upload had its legal troubles. It was in a fight with Universal Music because celebrity artists such as Jamie Smith, Kanye West, P. Diddy and Will.i.am endorsed the Web site. Some of those musicians had close connections to a leader of Mega­upload, Swizz Beatz, and his wife, Alicia Keys


    Not sure how much of a leader he was, but I'd be curious to know the stance of the people listed here on the subject at hand, considering it seems they profited from its money.
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    Re: FBI closes down Megaupload

    Postby DuneFishUK » 22 Jan 2012 14:28

    TorrentFreak has a couple of decently broken down articles - http://torrentfreak.com/megaupload-what ... on-120120/

    I know there are legitimate uses for this tech, it was useful, and I did use it (and MU was the best at what it did).. but, I don't like these file locker sites - anything that directly profits from sharing other people's work ain't right. Megaupload knew how it was being used and didn't crack down, because as soon as you start taking files down the main users (the ones with desirable content to bring in new users) desert you.
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    Re: FBI closes down Megaupload

    Postby Freakzilla » 23 Jan 2012 14:30

    I got this back from my Congressman:

    Thank you for contacting me regarding S. 968, the "Preventing Real Online Threats to Economic Creativity and Theft of Intellectual Property Act of 2011 (PROTECT IP)," and H.R. 3261, the " Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA)." It is good to hear from you.



    S. 968 was introduced on May 12, 2011, and referred to the Senate Judiciary Committee. On May 26, it was reported out of committee and placed on the general legislative calendar. If enacted, S. 968 would amend federal copyright law to authorize the Attorney General to file civil action against violators of copyright infringement law.



    H.R. 3261 was introduced on October 26, 2011, and referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary. On December 16, it was considered before the full committee; however, the bill was not voted out for consideration by the full House. If enacted, H.R. 3261 would authorize the Attorney General to seek a court order against a U.S.-directed foreign Internet site committing or facilitating online piracy.



    On January 23, 2012, a procedural vote on S. 968 was scheduled in the Senate; however, Majority Leader Reid announced that this vote will be postponed in order to allow for modifications to the bill to be made . Furthermore, House Judiciary Chairman Lamar Smith announced that further consideration of H.R. 3261 would be postponed indefinitely.



    It was always clear that SOPA and PROTECT IP needed to be perfected, and that legitimate concerns needed to be addressed before these bills could move forward. Given this and my constituents concerns, it was always my intention to oppose moving forward until concerns had been addressed. With the majority leader's decision to postpone the cloture vote on the PROTECT IP Act originally scheduled for January 24, I withdrew my co-sponsorship to await the resolution of the outstanding issues.



    I believe that online theft is a serious issue, and that Congress needs to make certain that our laws adequately protect the interests of rights holders. When $58 billion in economic output is lost to the U.S. economy annually due to copyright theft of movies, music, packaged software and video games, and about one-quarter of all internet traffic is copyright infringing, there is a real problem that needs to be addressed. I have complete faith that we will be able to work out a compromise in the future that addresses this, while still promoting free and open access to the internet. Should a bill addressing this topic come before the full Senate for consideration, I will keep your thoughts in mind.
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    Re: FBI closes down Megaupload

    Postby lotek » 23 Jan 2012 17:36

    Thanks for that kind of insight, do you mind if I share it ?
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    Re: FBI closes down Megaupload

    Postby Freakzilla » 23 Jan 2012 20:35

    lotek wrote:Thanks for that kind of insight, do you mind if I share it ?


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    Re: FBI closes down Megaupload

    Postby Freakzilla » 25 Jan 2012 19:50

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    Re: FBI closes down Megaupload

    Postby SandChigger » 25 Jan 2012 22:30

    :clap: :clap: :clap: :lol:
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    Re: FBI closes down Megaupload

    Postby Nekhrun » 25 Jan 2012 23:00

    I'll bet if SOPA had passed you'd have DN filing a complaint for posting quotes from Dune and have this place shut down.
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    Re: FBI closes down Megaupload

    Postby Freakzilla » 25 Jan 2012 23:23

    But cooler heads prevailed and our unlimited supply of cat-porn remains intact!
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    Re: FBI closes down Megaupload

    Postby SandChigger » 26 Jan 2012 11:36

    :lol:

    I'd forgotten about him. :laughing-rolling:
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    Re: FBI closes down Megaupload

    Postby DuneFishUK » 20 Feb 2012 21:15

    What the fuck is this shit?! :?

    Sleepwalking into censorship: Pirate Bay faces UK web block

    Summary: A UK court has effectively ruled file-sharing site The Pirate Bay as illegal, paving the way for ISP-level blocks to be enacted when a final judgement is made in June.

    Swedish file-sharing site The Pirate Bay could be blocked from the UK population after the High Court in London ruled that the site breaches copyright on a massive scale.

    The move brings a block on the site to British residents one step closer.

    In a judgement today, Mr. Justice Arnold who presided over the case, said that The Pirate Bay — and its users — infringe copyrighted content.

    Music and film lobbying groups are now pushing for UK broadband providers to block the site. A ruling is expected in June as to whether ISPs should prevent its users from accessing the site.

    ...

    http://www.zdnet.com/blog/london/sleepw ... block/3171


    AND

    Phone and email records to be stored in new spy plan

    Details of every phone call and text message, email traffic and websites visited online are to be stored in a series of vast databases under new Government anti-terror plans.

    Landline and mobile phone companies and broadband providers will be ordered to store the data for a year and make it available to the security services under the scheme.

    The databases would not record the contents of calls, texts or emails but the numbers or email addresses of who they are sent and received by.

    For the first time, the security services will have widespread access to information about who has been communicating with each other on social networking sites such as Facebook.

    Direct messages between subscribers to websites such as Twitter would also be stored, as well as communications between players in online video games.

    The Home Office is understood to have begun negotiations with internet companies in the last two months over the plan, which could be officially announced as early as May.

    ...

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/i ... -plan.html


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    Re: FBI closes down Megaupload

    Postby lotek » 21 Feb 2012 07:26

    yeah I've sen that last one...
    They even talk about storing communications between players in online video games.
    Really ?


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    Re: FBI closes down Megaupload

    Postby trang » 21 Feb 2012 19:42

    you think THEM announcing it means it wasn't already being done? THEM or THEY (depending on your shade of paranoia) announcing plans and negotiations to do things mean someone somewhere found out they were already doing it and blew the whistle. The after effect being they have to go public in some weak form as a front to show they are above board, while all the while every communication has been/is being/and will be stored.

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    Re: FBI closes down Megaupload

    Postby DuneFishUK » 21 Feb 2012 20:43

    They probably can, and they can defiantly get all records with a court order/bit of paper. Bit there's a difference between them being able to and us letting them. You know - presumption of innocence n' shit. We know from past experience that terror laws aren't always used to fight terror.

    lotek wrote:yeah I've sen that last one...
    They even talk about storing communications between players in online video games.
    Really ?


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