Sorceresses of Rossak

SandRider · Postby **SandRider** » 10 Nov 2008 21:33

dude, it hurt me several pages ago .....

BobaGodot wrote:if by "responding to tone" you mean that he's commenting on my tone in the argument rather than the content

That is the definition of "responding to tone" ......

EsperandoAGodot · Postby **EsperandoAGodot** » 10 Nov 2008 21:49

moreh_yeladim wrote:
SandChigger wrote::shock:

Congratulations for repeating a Byron-level counter-argument.

Addressed and answered already in another thread (oddly enough, the Jessica of Dune one), just the other day in fact.

Yes, space-folding is in effect FTL travel (because you cross a distance faster than light itself could) but in that (in its final version in the later books) it does not (seem to) involve acceleration or other motion, I don't think of it as "FTL" as commonly used in the genre.

OK, so it's just hyperspace rather than FTL travel. How nerdy do we want to get over this?

Very nerdy. See, I don't think it's hyperspace, either, as hyperspace travel still involves piloting the ship there, and moving through hyperspace. If foldspace is truly "travelling without moving" and moving "in the blink of an eye," then, as SandChigger pointed out, it's not really "travelling" in any traditional sense of the word.

Basically, you're not moving faster than light, because you're not moving at all.

SandChigger · Postby **SandChigger** » 11 Nov 2008 00:16

Have to be careful not to phrase it "moving without moving", since that's a Lynch Dune creation.

SandRider · Postby **SandRider** » 11 Nov 2008 00:29

see, I started to jump all over that, but just let it go.

Hey, I read on the internet that the wierding modules
in the new movie were going to be light sabers .....

{I never get tired of that !}

EsperandoAGodot · Postby **EsperandoAGodot** » 11 Nov 2008 00:44

SandChigger wrote:Have to be careful not to phrase it "moving without moving", since that's a Lynch Dune creation.

Ha. I'll try to remember that, though it is a rather concise way to explain it, no?

And lightsabers would probably set off the Holtzmann Shields, right? Big Explosion. CROSSOVER FIC!!!!!!!!!111one!

EDIT: Just to be sure, I was kidding...

SandRider · Postby **SandRider** » 11 Nov 2008 00:45

Usul would not heed the Imperial Surgeons warning about smoking .... after the tracheotomy,
he would require an Ixian breathing device ....

EsperandoAGodot · Postby **EsperandoAGodot** » 11 Nov 2008 00:51

I guess he must not have ever seen this then.

To be fair, though, he may have been seduced to smoking by this ad.

A Thing of Eternity · Postby **A Thing of Eternity** » 11 Nov 2008 14:57

moreh_yeladim wrote:
SandChigger wrote::shock:

Congratulations for repeating a Byron-level counter-argument.

Addressed and answered already in another thread (oddly enough, the Jessica of Dune one), just the other day in fact.

Yes, space-folding is in effect FTL travel (because you cross a distance faster than light itself could) but in that (in its final version in the later books) it does not (seem to) involve acceleration or other motion, I don't think of it as "FTL" as commonly used in the genre.

OK, so it's just hyperspace rather than FTL travel. How nerdy do we want to get over this?

VERY nerdy. It's what I do. :wink:

And, agreeing with someone else here, I also wouldn't call this hyperspace, though that may not be far off, I'd compare it to wormholes.