Toccs wrote: I will try to explain my reasoning as much as possible in order to avoid misunderstandings.
Toccs wrote: I welcome all responses whether agreeing or disagreeing, my only goal is to discuss Dune with fellow fans.
lotek wrote:Yeah that's pretty much the consensus here, without the swearing and birdnames.
Then maybe you'll want to Introduce Yourself! so your water can be claimed ?
Toccs wrote:lotek wrote:Yeah that's pretty much the consensus here, without the swearing and birdnames.
I didn't think I did swear . . . unless you mean"fanwank" which I assure you I meant only in the TV Tropes sense of the word.
Freakzilla wrote:I thought Sheeana would be the new "hero"... with Duncan's help, of course.
lotek wrote:Freakzilla wrote:I thought Sheeana would be the new "hero"... with Duncan's help, of course.
and we all know what "help" means for Duncan and women
Freakzilla wrote:Duncan Sharing, that's good.
OK, Sheeana takes on the worm skin and becomes possessed by Leto II. Duncan Shares with her AND Miles Teg and gets his AND Leto II powers.
Ultra-super-human to fight the IDF and their AI.
D Pope wrote:In all honesty, it's a stretch for me to think that Duncan was nessesary in Heretics.
D Pope wrote:I can't believe Frank intended to bring back Paul or anyone else except maybe the BT leaders.
Toccs wrote:I agree with the idea that Sheeana was being built up as the major hero.
Norman & the Rider wrote:SR: Do you believe Frank had intentions of a "Dune7" ? Along the same lines, what do think of the claim of Brian Herbert to have found floppy disks containing the "complete" Dune7 outline in a safety deposit box years after Frank's death ? If there were notes, do you believe Brian and Kevin J. Anderson used them faithfully in their new "Dune" books ?
NS: Maybe. Frank kept going as long as the big money kept rolling in. Knowing Frank's political philosophy, I once asked him how he could keep writing this royalist stuff. He told me he planned to end the series with a novel that would transition to a fictional universe of democratic rule. Never wrote it, of course. And Brian and Kevin certainly didn't from any 7 notes.
D Pope wrote:I'll bet the real #7 would've been close to another thousand years after Duncan slips the net.
Sardaukar Capt wrote:I'm not convinced at all that the Hacks Twain used anything of Frank's for Dune 7. It wasn't Frank's style to have 2 books of a trilogy not hint at the return of machines (in Heretics & Chapterhouse ) and suddenly spring it in the final chapter. All his other books had a wonderful layered subtext to it. This whole universe underneath and a history to that universe while only hinted at usually there are still the hints and nuggets that let you complete the history in your mind. There is ZERO to me in HERETICS of CHAPTERHOUSE that even remotely makes me think the Enemy in the scattering are machines.
I haven't read the Hacks' "Dune 7" but know enough about it to know that nothing will ever convince me, short of seeing REAL FH notes and an outline from D7 that confirms their version, that what they wrote in Cunters & Sandturds even remotely resembles what Frank was planning.
The idiots needed an entire trilogy (Legends) to set the stage for Cunters & Sandturds and yet supposedly Frank was going to spring all this shit in his real Dune 7 without hinting at any of the backstory? Give me a break.
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