Freakzilla wrote:Actually, most of the planet's stars are named in the terminology, the information in parenthesis appears to be interpretation.
Cpt. Aramsham wrote:most notably, "Laoujin," which is supposed to be the star of Wallach IX, is actually the Chinese name of Canopus (Dune's star), but it seems very unlikely that he intended these two planets to be in the same system.
georgiedenbro wrote:I know the article above uses material from the Chronicles, but FH does provide some in the Dune glossary as well (Caladan, Giedi Prime and Arrakis for sure, maybe a few others). I just thought the list was interesting so I included all of it.
I agree that we probably shouldn't read too much into the specific locations of the stars, but I think some of his naming was meant to be linguistically meaningful.
I would be satisfied to accept that FH only bothered naming some stars just so we know Dune exists in this universe and isn't a made-up place like in Star Wars. This would be necessary since he called Dune a work of prediction and not a work of fantasy. I just thought it was interesting that all the stars he chose were close ones, since the recognizability in the the stars as we know them (e.g. Canopus) wasn't even useful to him since he changed the names anyhow. Also I don't think it's a coincidence that Arrakis is farther out than the major home worlds we do know of. While I'm prepared to accept that the map isn't that important, I don't think FH literally chose them at random.
Cpt. Aramsham wrote:georgiedenbro wrote:I know the article above uses material from the Chronicles, but FH does provide some in the Dune glossary as well (Caladan, Giedi Prime and Arrakis for sure, maybe a few others). I just thought the list was interesting so I included all of it.
By the Chronicles I mean the books from Dune to Chapterhouse: Dune, so we're saying the same thing there. Most of the information is either from the Terminology of the Imperium at the end of Dune, or from the DE, since the other books give very little useful astronomical information.
I agree that FH may have intended the names to be linguistically meaningful. For example, "Arrakis" (or "al-Raqis") is the Arabic name of the star Mu Draconis, and that language link may be intentional. But this is also a good example of how he seems to have just picked a cool name out of some astronomical reference book, even though it's really the name of a star, not a planet. In other cases he mashes up different names, or combines multiple languages, or leaves off part of the name, or reuses different names of the same star. And of course, there's no correlation at all between the real-life characteristics of the stars in question and the way they're described in the books (though I have no idea how much of that was known when he wrote the first book). All of that indicates to me that he was simply mining lists for good names (perhaps with some thought to their meaning or origin), not worrying at all about the astronomy.
georgiedenbro wrote:I believe most of the entries in the list are FH
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