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    The Great Houses which comprise the governing body of the Empire

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Noble Houses of Dune

Postby Unfront » 13 Jan 2010 12:17

I was skimming through my Dune novels trying to find out any information on the Noble Houses of the Dune universe.

We all rember quite clearly that House Atreides, House Harkonnen and House Corrino (the actuall houses not the books) existed. However, I was wondering if Frank Herbert ever mentioned any other houses by name?

The preq's mention quite a few - but those do not count. I am only interested in what FH wrote about.
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Re: Noble Houses of Dune

Postby Freakzilla » 13 Jan 2010 12:41

The only other Great Houses FH mentions are House Moritani and House Ginaz.
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Re: Noble Houses of Dune

Postby Unfront » 13 Jan 2010 13:18

Freakzilla wrote:The only other Great Houses FH mentions are House Moritani and House Ginaz.


Thanks. Was that from the apendicies at the end of Dune?

The reason that I ask about the Houses is that I recall Frank Herbert mentioning Ix several times and, unless my memory is too fogie from reading too much McDune that Paul has Richesian blood, but nothing of House Vernius or of House Richese.
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Re: Noble Houses of Dune

Postby Freakzilla » 13 Jan 2010 13:34

Terminology of the Imperium

GRUMMAN: second planet of Niushe, noted chiefly for the feud of its ruling House
(Moritani) with House Ginaz.

IX: see Richese.

RICHESE: fourth planet of Eridani A, classed with Ix as supreme in machine
culture. Noted for miniaturization. (For a detailed study on how Richese and lx
escaped the more severe effects of the Butlerian Jihad, see The Last Jihad by
Sumer and Kautman.)

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"The Ixian Confederacy offers submission," Stilgar said, "but their
negotiators question the amount of the Imperial Tax which they --"

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Re: Noble Houses of Dune

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Re: Noble Houses of Dune

Postby Freakzilla » 14 Jan 2010 11:24

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Re: Noble Houses of Dune

Postby A Little Galach » 06 Apr 2010 21:00

Unfront wrote:
Freakzilla wrote:The only other Great Houses FH mentions are House Moritani and House Ginaz.


Thanks. Was that from the apendicies at the end of Dune?

The reason that I ask about the Houses is that I recall Frank Herbert mentioning Ix several times and, unless my memory is too fogie from reading too much McDune that Paul has Richesian blood, but nothing of House Vernius or of House Richese.


I recall this too. Where was the relation? Sorry to not have acess or time for the legwork.

Dune mentions several other planets but not houses if I recall.

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Re: Noble Houses of Dune

Postby Freakzilla » 06 Apr 2010 21:47

RICHESE: fourth planet of Eridani A, classed with Ix as supreme in machine
culture. Noted for miniaturization.
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Re: Noble Houses of Dune

Postby SandChigger » 07 Apr 2010 01:08

If my files be true, Richese is mentioned 206 times in things with "DUNE" on the cover, but only 3 of them in an actual DUNE book.

In House Atrocious, a couple(?) of hacks wrote:"That is not the point, Paulus, dear. People are watching." It was Leto's mother, sitting on the other side of the Duke. The dark-skinned Lady Helena, dressed in her fine gown, took seriously the ponderous words of the Greek chorus. "Pay attention to the context. It's your family history, after all. Not mine." Leto looked from one parent to the other, knowing that the family history of his mother's House Richese carried just as much grandeur and loss as that of Atreides. Richese had sunk from a highly profitable "golden age" to its current economic weakness.

So, in the McDuniverse, Duke Leto's mother/Paul's grandmother is supposedly from "House Richese".

What's most interesting about this shit is you can judge from the very first McDune book the magnitude of KJA's "literary penis envy": he not only has to "out-Dune" Frank Herbert, he has to out-Greek Aeschylus. And he's been dust for nearly twenty-five hundred years. :lol:
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Re: Noble Houses of Dune

Postby lotek » 07 Apr 2010 06:04

but Richese is not a House is it?
Unless I missed something last time I checked it was just that planet where they produce gizmos in Dune, period!

Just to make it clear, the hacks claim:
-that Richese is a Great House(Major?)
-that Leto I's mother was Richesian?

I think that quote:
Leto looked from one parent to the other, knowing that the family history of his mother's House Richese carried just as much grandeur and loss as that of Atreides

really means:
Brian looked from one parent to the other, knowing that the literary history of his surrogate father carried just as much grandeur and loss as that of Frank's

in KJA's little rat mind!
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Re: Noble Houses of Dune

Postby trang » 07 Apr 2010 08:11

Fartblocker and the jacket make them house's in Mcdune, but they are just competing tech corps for lack of better description. Freak said it, Moritani and Ginaz only others mentioned.
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Re: Noble Houses of Dune

Postby A Little Galach » 07 Apr 2010 08:24

So FH never mentions Richese ancestry with Paul/Jessica? It was in the new books? I feel as if I should remove myself.

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Re: Noble Houses of Dune

Postby SandChigger » 07 Apr 2010 18:07

Nah, don't do that! We want to poke and watchya squirm some more! :twisted:

Just kidding! :P

Seriously, don't feel bad! The crap is insidious and seeps into any open space it can find.

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Re: Noble Houses of Dune

Postby Nekhrun » 07 Apr 2010 18:16

SandChigger wrote:Nah, don't do that! We want to poke and watchya squirm some more! :twisted:

Just kidding! :P

Seriously, don't feel bad! The crap is insidious and seeps into any open space it can find.

BEWARE MCDUNE CRAP SEEP!!! :lol:

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Re: Noble Houses of Dune

Postby dunaddict » 21 Apr 2010 07:16

In Children of Dune (chapter 11) a house minor, Nebiros is mentioned:
house minor, the Nebiros, who traded in holy artifacts and small manufactured items for decoration.

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Re: Noble Houses of Dune

Postby SandChigger » 21 Apr 2010 11:58

That reminds me: where has Nebby gotten to these days? :P

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Re: Noble Houses of Dune

Postby SadisticCynic » 21 Apr 2010 15:17

SandChigger wrote:That reminds me: where has Nebby gotten to these days? :P


Actually last time he was here he posted this:

Nebiros wrote:All you have to do is say my screen name and I'll respond. Currently re-reading God Emperor of Dune.


So I guess you just summoned him. :)
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Re: Noble Houses of Dune

Postby Tleszer » 21 Apr 2010 15:19

Nebbyjuice, Nebbyjuice, Nebbyjuice!
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Re: Noble Houses of Dune

Postby Freakzilla » 21 Apr 2010 15:30

If we trick him into saying his name backwards will he disappear into an alternate dimension? :wink:
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Re: Noble Houses of Dune

Postby Hunchback Jack » 21 Apr 2010 15:35

SandChigger wrote:If my files be true, Richese is mentioned 206 times in things with "DUNE" on the cover, but only 3 of them in an actual DUNE book.


Ooh, nice distinction. Need to remember that one.

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Re: Noble Houses of Dune

Postby SandChigger » 21 Apr 2010 18:03

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Re: Noble Houses of Dune

Postby Nebiros » 22 Apr 2010 01:53

You have summoned me. Still reading God Emperor. Taking a while to read since I'm reading three books at once. So what do you want?

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Re: Noble Houses of Dune

Postby Mr. Teg » 22 Apr 2010 08:16

If you want to summon Nebbyjuice the following is suppose to work as well. :wink:

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Re: Noble Houses of Dune

Postby lotek » 22 Apr 2010 08:43

well i considered not making that joke but then again I'd hate to see someone else do it...

that last smiley might not draw out Nebbyjuice but it is bound to get loads of Knobbyjuice...


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Re: Noble Houses of Dune

Postby Omphalos » 22 Apr 2010 11:38

Mr. Teg wrote:If you want to summon Nebbyjuice the following is suppose to work as well. :wink:

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Nebbish does not appreciate that kind of gutter-smiley. He's married, you know.


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