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Postby Tleilax Master B » 14 Mar 2008 09:18

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orald wrote:Brian has a daughter, Kim, no? From what I saw in a glancing remark in Chig's blog we shouldn't be setting our hopes high in her case. Or did I misinterpert it? :?


Hmmmm...does she have kids? Does she want kids? Oh...the hell with it...we just need a scratch of her skin and a Tlelaxu Master :twisted:


I can arrange that :evil:
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Postby Rakis » 14 Mar 2008 23:31

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Rakis wrote:Hmmmm...does she have kids? Does she want kids?

I hereby volunteer for the Dune Ressistence! I'll get us a true heir in no time! :D

Does this constitutes as a rape threat against her? :o

How did we get so far from topic?


We're on topic if we transform her into a tank...Nah,just the scratch of skin part... :twisted:
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Postby chanilover » 19 Jun 2008 05:22

Were the tanks mentioned as being braindead in Frank's books, or was that a Kevinism? I prefer the idea of the tanks being conscious but immobile.

If all Tleilaxu women are axlotl tanks, what do the Masters do for sex, or do you think they've tinkered with themselves to neutralise their sex drives? Are dommel separate from Face Dancers, and if so are all dommel male?
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Postby Freakzilla » 19 Jun 2008 05:28

chanilover wrote:Were the tanks mentioned as being braindead in Frank's books, or was that a Kevinism? I prefer the idea of the tanks being conscious but immobile.


I don't think so.

If all Tleilaxu women are axlotl tanks, what do the Masters do for sex, or do you think they've tinkered with themselves to neutralise their sex drives?


The distribute their sperm periodically at a "selamlik" where women are kept and guarded.

Are dommel separate from Face Dancers, and if so are all dommel male?


Yes and yes.
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Postby chanilover » 20 Jun 2008 04:39

Thanks. Who are the women in the Selamliks? I thought the Selamlik would be where they keep the tanks. Does this mean that not all Tleilaxu women are tanks, some are ordinary women kept segregated in the Selamlik as the Tleilaxu version of purdah?
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Postby Freakzilla » 20 Jun 2008 07:51

chanilover wrote:Thanks. Who are the women in the Selamliks? I thought the Selamlik would be where they keep the tanks. Does this mean that not all Tleilaxu women are tanks, some are ordinary women kept segregated in the Selamlik as the Tleilaxu version of purdah?


Frank never says, but I just assumed they were ordinary Tleilaxu women.
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Postby orald » 20 Jun 2008 09:30

I always assumed they were tanks. Think about it: A society so advanced in genetic manipulation that churns out their Masters from tanks etc- would they really trust to nature to do the job?
No, they'll make it all artificial. The selmalik is like a sperm bank.

And I think they might use female-form FDs for "relaxation".
Waff had a couple show him the HM's sexual tricks in HoD.
Them being infertile and totally submissive would also add a lure.
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Postby Freakzilla » 20 Jun 2008 09:39

It was proper that even Waff, the most powerful of all Tleilaxu, could not leave
his world and be readmitted without abasing himself in the ghufran, begging
pardon for contact with the unimaginable sins of aliens. To go out among the
powindah could soil even the mightiest. The khasadars who policed all Tleilaxu
frontiers and guarded the selamliks of the women were right to suspect even
Waff. He was of the people and the kehl, yes, but he must prove it each time he
left the heartland and returned, and certainly every time he entered the
selamlik for the distribution of his sperm.


WHy would they need to guard tanks? I picture it like a pleasure dome.
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Postby orald » 20 Jun 2008 10:04

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selamlik for the distribution of his sperm.


WHy would they need to guard tanks? I picture it like a pleasure dome.

The tanks are just their most prized possesions, that's all. :wink:

Notice it is a rather a clinical, dry way to describe getting into a harem to get some putang. Unless they are tanks.
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Postby Tleilax Master B » 20 Jun 2008 11:49

orald wrote:
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selamlik for the distribution of his sperm.


WHy would they need to guard tanks? I picture it like a pleasure dome.

The tanks are just their most prized possesions, that's all. :wink:

Notice it is a rather a clinical, dry way to describe getting into a harem to get some putang. Unless they are tanks.


I think its a very mechanical, very routine process--not a harem to get some putang. They are master geneticists, but are probably wise enough to keep an appropriate population of followers to insure they had the masses necessary to take care of the Ascendancy. I don't think you can purely get the population numbers needed by just tanks alone. Tanks produce the specific products they needed, including face dancers and gholas, and particularly serial gholas of the Masters in Kehl. Also, I think its selective breeding. Remeber Waff was trying to get breeding BGs and probably only the Masters were contributing to that gene pool so that they kept control of the phenotypes being produced in the general population.

Having sex for fun is a disgusting, dirty powindah thing to do :evil:
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Postby orald » 20 Jun 2008 12:00

Procreation is sacred. Did God not give us the secret language for just that purpose? And here these whores and witches trade it like common goods- to be bought and sold for their insignificant, short-lived gains!
The blasphemy of these women is exactly why we, the chosen people, have done so with our females, to keep our people away from sin.









Right, Mastah B? :P


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TMB wrote:They are master geneticists, but are probably wise enough to keep an appropriate population of followers to insure they had the masses necessary to take care of the Ascendancy. I don't think you can purely get the population numbers needed by just tanks alone.

I think it might be God Leto who says something about machines not being able to predict human needs(a very recurrent theme in FH's books, begining of Dosadi for instance, and The Eyes of Hisenberg is even a more relevant exmple), and I think it's implied(or said out in the open?) that this includes not only the Ixians, but also the BT's genetic engineering.
He was, with the BG, only for "natural" breeding programs(i.e what he and the BG did).
Maybe it's in HoD/CH:D though. But I'm quite sure there's this contrast pointed out somewhere.

Well, point being, the BT were probably over-relient and obssessed with their source of power and never really considered that, like the Ixians who probably had to be warned/blodgeoned to stop their improved hunter-seeker program by God Leto. kinda like what I remember about the master "race" in The Eyes of Heisenberg(IIRC, been almost 10 years now).

And I disagree about the tanks being slow or kept for the most precious of things. Think about it- a "free" woman vs a tank- who do you think will produce more babies in a shorter time? A tank is already a super baby-making machine(as all women should be :wink: ), why make babies with "imperfect" natural designs? The description is too clinical to think he'll fuck some real woman or he'd have at least some thought of them and maybe some memberence of pleasure.

Oh, and remember- he does get sexually excited with the FDs demonstrating the HM techniques. You'd think he'll have some passing thought if he was gonna meet some real women in the selmalic.
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Postby Tleilax Master B » 20 Jun 2008 12:09

orald wrote:Procreation is sacred. Did God not give us the secret language for just that purpose? And here these whores and witches trade it like common goods- to be bought and sold for their insignificant, short-lived gains!
The blasphemy of these women is exactly why we, the chosen people, have done so with our females, to keep our people away from sin.









Right, Mastah B? :P


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Postby chanilover » 23 Jun 2008 03:34

After reading through this thread, I think I agree with Orald that the women in the selamliks are tanks. As for guarding the selamliks, that makes sense as the BT are Zensunni fanatics and practise ritual cleansing after they've been out among the powindah, so guarding the tanks would just be their version of purdah.
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Postby Muad'Dib56 » 14 Aug 2008 18:58

i wonder how an axlotl tank would look like :shock:
.hope they show it in the new Dune movie!

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Postby Lisan Al-Gaib » 14 Aug 2008 19:49

Muad'Dib56 wrote:i wonder how an axlotl tank would look like :shock:
.hope they show it in the new Dune movie!


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Postby Freakzilla » 14 Aug 2008 20:09

Lisan Al-Gaib wrote:
Muad'Dib56 wrote:i wonder how an axlotl tank would look like :shock:
.hope they show it in the new Dune movie!


The tleilaxu didnt show the face in the first book. Did you not read it?


Axlotl tanks aren't described until Heretics of Dune:

The axlotl tanks!
He remembered emerging time after time: bright lights and padded mechanical
hands. The hands rotated him and, in the unfocused blurs of the newborn, he saw
a great mound of female flesh -- monstrous in her almost immobile grossness . .
. a maze of dark tubes linked her body to giant metal containers.
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Postby SandChigger » 14 Aug 2008 20:39

These comments and questions are a bit simplistic, no? For someone who has read the books, I mean. :?
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Postby Nekhrun » 15 Aug 2008 00:46

Maybe Muad'Dib is fantomass's big revenge for Bubba. :roll:

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Postby SandChigger » 15 Aug 2008 01:27

Well, there are so many sockpuppets over on DN now that the Preeqs there would have to be pretty dim indeed not to catch on to the idea and decide to try it themselves.

Even PhantomAss isn't that stupid.

And this board crashing thing is giving them the perfect chance to sign up.

Ah well, we'll sort them out, all in good time. :twisted:
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Postby Mandy » 15 Aug 2008 19:45

Jacurutu has already been crashed, so going back to however registration was before would probably be a good idea.. even though I don't know what the big deal is, the tards will just have their asses handed to them here, without Byron around to delete the OH posts.

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Postby A Thing of Eternity » 15 Aug 2008 19:58

Mandy wrote:Jacurutu has already been crashed, so going back to however registration was before would probably be a good idea.. even though I don't know what the big deal is, the tards will just have their asses handed to them here, without Byron around to delete the OH posts.


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Postby Omphalos » 15 Aug 2008 22:05

Nekhrun wrote:Maybe Muad'Dib is fantomass's big revenge for Bubba. :roll:


Whoever it is he has not picked up my PM telling him to watch his P's & Q's.

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Postby Omphalos » 15 Aug 2008 22:07

Mandy wrote:Jacurutu has already been crashed, so going back to however registration was before would probably be a good idea.. even though I don't know what the big deal is, the tards will just have their asses handed to them here, without Byron around to delete the OH posts.


Freak stopped approving members months ago. I only go in to approve people when something goes wrong with the mail feature, so since page one or so of the members, they have all been self authenticating and have signed up without anyone's approval. T(A)U is still a different story, but Ill open it up on Monday, then lock it down again the Sunday after.

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Postby Lisan Al-Gaib » 15 Aug 2008 22:14

hello, man

I think you shouldnt open the T(A)U . That place is like the OH santuary :wink:
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Postby Omphalos » 16 Aug 2008 00:01

Lisan Al-Gaib wrote:hello, man

I think you shouldnt open the T(A)U . That place is like the OH santuary :wink:


It will be that too, afterwards. Im not expecting many to register. And trust me, Ill keep the preeks the hell out.


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