Harkonnen Ornithopter plastic scale model

    Can't find the appropriate forum for your topic? Post it here!

Moderators: Omphalos, Freakzilla, ᴶᵛᵀᴬ

User avatar
cmsahe
Posts: 598
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 22:40
Location: Mexico City

Harkonnen Ornithopter plastic scale model

Postby cmsahe » 30 May 2010 01:22

http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/HARKONNEN%20ORNITHOPTER%20PAGE.htm

Image

The ornithopters in Dune (1984) are ugly they do not look at all as they are described in the novel. The miniseries failed on their representation too. This plastic model looks like a video game controller.
Only the books written by Frank Herbert are canon.


Who We Are and What We Stand For
http://www.jacurutu.com/viewtopic.php?p=79778#p79778
----
Carlos Santillan, aka cmsahe

User avatar
SandRider
Watermaster
Posts: 6163
Joined: 05 Oct 2008 16:14
Location: In the back of your mind. Always.
Contact:

Re: Harkonnen Ornithopter plastic scale model

Postby SandRider » 30 May 2010 01:42

"Goddamn thing's got the glide-ratio of a brick ...."

- my cousin (mama's side) on the F-100 (Century Series) fighter/inceptor, ca 1970 ...
................ I exist only to amuse myself ................
ImageImage

I personally feel that this message board, Jacurutu, is full of hateful folks who don't know
how to fully interact with people.
~ "Spice Grandson" (Bryon Merrit) 08 June 2008

User avatar
Freakzilla
Lead Singer and Driver of the Winnebego
Posts: 18257
Joined: 05 Feb 2008 01:27
Location: Atlanta, Georgia, USA
Contact:

Re: Harkonnen Ornithopter plastic scale model

Postby Freakzilla » 30 May 2010 02:32

They spent their 'thopter design budget on hats.
Image
Paul of Dune was so bad it gave me a seizure that dislocated both of my shoulders and prolapsed my anus.
~Pink Snowman

User avatar
TheDukester
Posts: 3808
Joined: 20 Jun 2008 13:44
Location: Operation Enduring Bacon
Contact:

Re: Harkonnen Ornithopter plastic scale model

Postby TheDukester » 30 May 2010 11:09

Just to be clear: that model is from the Lynch movie. The original post does not make that clear.

The Harkonnen thopters from the miniseries were more wasp-shaped and featured visible guns, IIRC. It's been awhile. They looked pretty sharp ... if, perhaps, not very much like what FH intended.
"Anything I write will be remembered and listed in bibliographies on Dune for several hundred years ..." — some delusional halfwit troll.

User avatar
Freakzilla
Lead Singer and Driver of the Winnebego
Posts: 18257
Joined: 05 Feb 2008 01:27
Location: Atlanta, Georgia, USA
Contact:

Re: Harkonnen Ornithopter plastic scale model

Postby Freakzilla » 30 May 2010 11:19

To be fair, people have been trying to design ornithopters for hundreds of years, De Vinci's being the first I know of. Even a believable model is a tough task.

http://www.ornithopter.org/
Image
Paul of Dune was so bad it gave me a seizure that dislocated both of my shoulders and prolapsed my anus.
~Pink Snowman

User avatar
TheDukester
Posts: 3808
Joined: 20 Jun 2008 13:44
Location: Operation Enduring Bacon
Contact:

Re: Harkonnen Ornithopter plastic scale model

Postby TheDukester » 30 May 2010 11:34

Isn't FH himself a bit vague on the actual description? I'll admit my last actual reading of Dune was a while ago — and my most recent "reading" was the new version of the audiobook — so maybe I'm mis-remembering this. Also, the DE entry might be clouding my memory.
"Anything I write will be remembered and listed in bibliographies on Dune for several hundred years ..." — some delusional halfwit troll.

User avatar
Freakzilla
Lead Singer and Driver of the Winnebego
Posts: 18257
Joined: 05 Feb 2008 01:27
Location: Atlanta, Georgia, USA
Contact:

Re: Harkonnen Ornithopter plastic scale model

Postby Freakzilla » 30 May 2010 11:51

The DE entry was ridiculous with it's clam power.

From what I remember about FH's 'thopters, they had variable length fan-metal wings with jet assistance and could transition to fixed wing flight. But you're right, not much else is said about them.
Image
Paul of Dune was so bad it gave me a seizure that dislocated both of my shoulders and prolapsed my anus.
~Pink Snowman

User avatar
DuneFishUK
Posts: 1990
Joined: 25 May 2008 14:14
Location: Cool Britannia
Contact:

Re: Harkonnen Ornithopter plastic scale model

Postby DuneFishUK » 30 May 2010 13:12

FH is quite often infuriatingly vague when it comes to nailing down actual descriptions. - He creates fantastic images, but most of the time you have no idea what he was imagining.

User avatar
SandChigger
KJASF Ground Zero
Posts: 14492
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 22:29
Location: A continuing state of irritation
Contact:

Re: Harkonnen Ornithopter plastic scale model

Postby SandChigger » 30 May 2010 19:44

One reason he never gets old. ;)

User avatar
lotek
Posts: 5778
Joined: 28 Jul 2009 08:33

Re: Harkonnen Ornithopter plastic scale model

Postby lotek » 31 May 2010 08:25

DuneFishUK wrote:FH is quite often infuriatingly vague when it comes to nailing down actual descriptions. - He creates fantastic images, but most of the time you have no idea what he was imagining.


Yeah that's why I believe he's such a good story teller, he's like peripheral vision that only gives you a shape(an outline if you may)and lets your brain fill in the gaps. Only when you try to look at it(picture it in your mind) it evades you. It's just so beautiful in its simplicity, and yet true talent lies in knowing what details should be given and which ones to imagination! (You see where this could be going)

SandChigger wrote:One reason he never gets old. ;)

too right!
Spice is the worm's gonads.

tenfingersofdoom
Posts: 65
Joined: 03 Jun 2010 22:08

Re: Harkonnen Ornithopter plastic scale model

Postby tenfingersofdoom » 05 Jun 2010 15:59

At the sci-fi model club I go to someone brought one of these in. the cockpit detail is great, he painted it up to look like a weathered bronze but couldn't find any figures to fit in there. apparently it still goes together pretty well for an old model.
Kevin J. Anderson is so stupid he thinks he invented The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen since he wrote the movie tie-in.

tenfingersofdoom
Posts: 65
Joined: 03 Jun 2010 22:08

Re: Harkonnen Ornithopter plastic scale model

Postby tenfingersofdoom » 05 Jun 2010 16:09

I've seen all types of ornithopters on deviant art, the most beautiful one had to be the one with black raven-like wings, but that is design over function. could you imagine the g-forces involved in lifting off like a huge several ton bird? Up here in the northwest right now the dragonflies are everywhere, they make takeoff, landing, near-hovering and gliding look effortless. when they are circling each other in fights or mating displays i like to imagine ornithopter battles. i wold imagine a seaside/marsh like port townsend is full of them.
Kevin J. Anderson is so stupid he thinks he invented The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen since he wrote the movie tie-in.

User avatar
Freakzilla
Lead Singer and Driver of the Winnebego
Posts: 18257
Joined: 05 Feb 2008 01:27
Location: Atlanta, Georgia, USA
Contact:

Re: Harkonnen Ornithopter plastic scale model

Postby Freakzilla » 05 Jun 2010 16:28

I've always pictured them as insects, like a wasp or dragonfly...

Image
Ron Cobb, ornithopter, 1975. Concept art for Alejandro Jodorowsky's
unrealized Dune. Courtesy roncobbdesigns.com.

This one is really nice looking...

Image
Image
Paul of Dune was so bad it gave me a seizure that dislocated both of my shoulders and prolapsed my anus.
~Pink Snowman

User avatar
Hunchback Jack
Posts: 1983
Joined: 30 May 2008 15:02
Location: California, USA

Re: Harkonnen Ornithopter plastic scale model

Postby Hunchback Jack » 05 Jun 2010 16:42

That's very cool. It looks like it's in fixed wing mode there, but the wings can be swung forward into a flapping position.

HBJ
"The sky calls to us. If we do not destroy ourselves, we will one day venture to the stars."
- Carl Sagan

I'm still very proud of The Quarry but … let's face it; in the end the real best way to sign off would have been with a great big rollicking Culture novel.
- Iain Banks

User avatar
DuneFishUK
Posts: 1990
Joined: 25 May 2008 14:14
Location: Cool Britannia
Contact:

Re: Harkonnen Ornithopter plastic scale model

Postby DuneFishUK » 05 Jun 2010 16:45

That last one, the model, is fantastic! Wow. :D

He has some more pics -
Image
Image

And a digital one -
Image
(Source: http://www.rorymcleish.com/3d_hardware.htm#)

tenfingersofdoom
Posts: 65
Joined: 03 Jun 2010 22:08

Re: Harkonnen Ornithopter plastic scale model

Postby tenfingersofdoom » 05 Jun 2010 21:36

I honestly hope the movie has something a shred as epic as the above photo. It just sums up the unspoken grandeur of what frank wrote.
Kevin J. Anderson is so stupid he thinks he invented The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen since he wrote the movie tie-in.

User avatar
SandChigger
KJASF Ground Zero
Posts: 14492
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 22:29
Location: A continuing state of irritation
Contact:

Re: Harkonnen Ornithopter plastic scale model

Postby SandChigger » 05 Jun 2010 22:07

If Cameron's team could animate those Pandoran banshees, surely with their budget Paramount can find someone to do a decent ornithopter. They just have to want to. :roll:

User avatar
cmsahe
Posts: 598
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 22:40
Location: Mexico City

Re: Harkonnen Ornithopter plastic scale model

Postby cmsahe » 15 Jun 2010 00:14

Freakzilla wrote:I've always pictured them as insects, like a wasp or dragonfly...

[img]....


Wow Beautiful!

The Ornithopters in David Lynch's Dune look like steam irons.
Only the books written by Frank Herbert are canon.


Who We Are and What We Stand For
http://www.jacurutu.com/viewtopic.php?p=79778#p79778
----
Carlos Santillan, aka cmsahe

User avatar
DuneFishUK
Posts: 1990
Joined: 25 May 2008 14:14
Location: Cool Britannia
Contact:

Re: Harkonnen Ornithopter plastic scale model

Postby DuneFishUK » 15 Jun 2010 13:11

Image

User avatar
SandRider
Watermaster
Posts: 6163
Joined: 05 Oct 2008 16:14
Location: In the back of your mind. Always.
Contact:

Re: Harkonnen Ornithopter plastic scale model

Postby SandRider » 15 Jun 2010 15:23

Image
Image
Image
................ I exist only to amuse myself ................
ImageImage

I personally feel that this message board, Jacurutu, is full of hateful folks who don't know
how to fully interact with people.
~ "Spice Grandson" (Bryon Merrit) 08 June 2008

User avatar
SandChigger
KJASF Ground Zero
Posts: 14492
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 22:29
Location: A continuing state of irritation
Contact:

Re: Harkonnen Ornithopter plastic scale model

Postby SandChigger » 15 Jun 2010 18:57

After Dark?

That brings back memories! :lol:

User avatar
cmsahe
Posts: 598
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 22:40
Location: Mexico City

Re: Harkonnen Ornithopter plastic scale model

Postby cmsahe » 15 Jun 2010 23:24

DuneFishUK wrote:Image


Identical!
Only the books written by Frank Herbert are canon.


Who We Are and What We Stand For
http://www.jacurutu.com/viewtopic.php?p=79778#p79778
----
Carlos Santillan, aka cmsahe

User avatar
Freakzilla
Lead Singer and Driver of the Winnebego
Posts: 18257
Joined: 05 Feb 2008 01:27
Location: Atlanta, Georgia, USA
Contact:

Re: Harkonnen Ornithopter plastic scale model

Postby Freakzilla » 16 Jun 2010 11:30

cmsahe wrote:Identical!


Image
Image
Paul of Dune was so bad it gave me a seizure that dislocated both of my shoulders and prolapsed my anus.
~Pink Snowman

User avatar
lotek
Posts: 5778
Joined: 28 Jul 2009 08:33

Re: Harkonnen Ornithopter plastic scale model

Postby lotek » 16 Jun 2010 14:21

Image

that's what I call a 'thopter!!

It reminds me of the entrance Paul uses to his Citadel, I seem to remember a sharp descent and a really tiny platform, so hard to pull off it garanteed noone else than him would enter.
Now imagining one of those doing it is far more impressive than Lynch's just dropping slowly...
Spice is the worm's gonads.

User avatar
lotek
Posts: 5778
Joined: 28 Jul 2009 08:33

Re: Harkonnen Ornithopter plastic scale model

Postby lotek » 16 Jun 2010 14:22

Image
Spice is the worm's gonads.